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Nate Silver ("Blogger for Times") joining ESPN

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by buckweaver, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. SportsGuyBCK

    SportsGuyBCK Active Member

    Wonder if they're gonna put him in Lynn Hoppes' old office ... if Lynn has cleared out all his dreck, that is ... :)
     
  2. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    By when? By mid-November, when he beat Alabama? Yeah, not then.

    I don't know what you mean "surprise" in Manziel wasn't a surprise in that he'd never played a college game before the year. A shitty player winning the Heisman? Is that a surprise? Help me out here. Outside of Toretta, how often has the prize went to a player who's demonstrably not one of the best ten players that year?
     
  3. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I find very little independent thinking in Kepner's and the NYT's baseball coverage.
     
  4. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    We're talking about the lag period between when the season ends and when the winner is announced.
     
  5. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Silver told reporters today that "culture stuff" was not a big factor in his leaving the Times, saying he had lots of support from editors.
    Assuming he's telling the truth, that leaves money, always a totally valid reason for changing employers.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    When people are talking "surprise" on here, they mean after the season is over and before the award is announced.
     
  7. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The six days? OK, well, no surprises then.

    I'd love to see Silver try and predict voting results. Knowing how contrarian sportswriters like to be, they'll vote for someone else just to prove a point.
     
  8. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yes, the six days. And the weeks leading up to that, too, of course. There used to be surprises. Now there aren't. The surprises you're talking about are surprises about how the season goes. The surpises we're talking about are how voters break once all or most of the information is in.
     
  9. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    In the wake of Helen Thomas' passing, is it worth asking if the WH press corp has returned to their pre-Watergate role as

    As Mark Leibovich's new book This Town points out, the media seems much more interested in being a part of the D.C. establishment than in breaking news.

    Silver's not a reporter in the traditional sense, so he can't/won't change that, but he does/did help expose it.
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/nate-silver-warns-against-overestimating-his-value,33212/

    Silver also noted that, considering recent statistical trends within the television industry, there is an overwhelming likelihood that Keith Olbermann’s new weeknight talk show on ESPN will be fucking awful.
     
  11. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    He said that of punditry, not reporting.

    Yes, that sounds like New York Times politics reporting.
     
  12. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Ah, my bad -- though I wonder if the Times public editor's sources on that fit into both categories, as Times folks often do.
     
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