nappy headed Mormons?

heyabbott · May 10, 2007

mannheimadler said:

I'm a Mormon, and while I was offended by Sharpton's remark, I was nowhere near as appalled by it as I was by Imus.

Trust me, I've heard far worse slurs about my religion and my ancestors. I have, after all, been a Mormon my entire life.
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Would you be more offended by those who say it, or those in the audience that nod their head and say 'amen' brother Al?

heyabbott · May 10, 2007

outofplace said:

Ace said:

outofplace said:

Ace said:

Well, if he is saying he won't get elected because he's Mormon, he may or may not be right. They said the same thing about JFK being Catholic.

I don't think what Sharpton said was all that outrageous. Like most things, it's how he said it.
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Sure sounds to me like he is saying Mormons don't believe in G-d and that anyone who does believe in G-d would vote against a Mormon candidate. I'm not sure how that isn't offensive. It bothers me as it is and if you put Jew in there instead of Morman, I'd probably be very pissed off.
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I don't agree with what he said, but I agree that it is accurate for a lot of people who do think of Mormons as a cult or something.
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And there are a lot of people who think all Jews are evil and responsible for the death of Christ. I think we've gotten past the one about us hiding our horns under the yamulkas, though, so I guess that is progress.
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We haven't gotten past it, tens of thousands ofpeople voted for Sharpton because he stands for the things he preaches, Hatred of Jews, Gays and now Mormons. People say he isn't a black leader, but aside from jesse, sharpton's the only black man to have run for National Office and received votes from all over the country. I
d venture to say that 90% of those that voted for him are black. Not all blacks are antisemetic and homophobis, but those that voted for him are, or at least don't care enough about bigotry and hate to hold it against him.

Fenian_Bastard · May 10, 2007

I think every sponsor should immediately cancel on Al Sharpton's nationally televised radio program and that both NBC and CBS should no longer give him a show.
Oh, wait...

Big Chee · May 10, 2007

heyabbott said:

outofplace said:

Ace said:

outofplace said:

Ace said:

Well, if he is saying he won't get elected because he's Mormon, he may or may not be right. They said the same thing about JFK being Catholic.

I don't think what Sharpton said was all that outrageous. Like most things, it's how he said it.
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Sure sounds to me like he is saying Mormons don't believe in G-d and that anyone who does believe in G-d would vote against a Mormon candidate. I'm not sure how that isn't offensive. It bothers me as it is and if you put Jew in there instead of Morman, I'd probably be very pissed off.
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I don't agree with what he said, but I agree that it is accurate for a lot of people who do think of Mormons as a cult or something.
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And there are a lot of people who think all Jews are evil and responsible for the death of Christ. I think we've gotten past the one about us hiding our horns under the yamulkas, though, so I guess that is progress.
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We haven't gotten past it, tens of thousands ofpeople voted for Sharpton because he stands for the things he preaches, Hatred of Jews, Gays and now Mormons. People say he isn't a black leader, but aside from jesse, he's the only black man called on by the white male dominated media to speak on the behalf of african americans. And I blame black people for that.
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heyabbott · May 10, 2007

Fenian_Bastard said:

I think every sponsor should immediately cancel on Al Sharpton's nationally televised radio program and that both NBC and CBS should no longer give him a show.
Oh, wait...
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ADifferentOkie · May 10, 2007

mannheimadler said:

I'm a Mormon, and while I was offended by Sharpton's remark, I was nowhere near as appalled by it as I was by Imus.

Trust me, I've heard far worse slurs about my religion and my ancestors. I have, after all, been a Mormon my entire life.
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I am not agreeing with Sharpton, but I do have an honest question.
As a Mormon, don't you believe that you worship a different God than the more mainstream Christian religions do (and you're probably aware that your church used to not call itself Christian to set itself apart)?
Isn't your concept of Heavenly Father and Jesus being seperate deities, with Jesus as the God of this universe, quite different than the protestant concept of true holy trinity rather than a godhead?
Again, I'm not trying to attack you. I am not voting for Romney because I don't agree with his politics.
My best friend of more than a decade is Mormon. I have nothing against the religion.
However, despite what some might say on this thread, it is not simply another protestant sect.

outofplace · May 10, 2007

ADifferentOkie said:

mannheimadler said:

I'm a Mormon, and while I was offended by Sharpton's remark, I was nowhere near as appalled by it as I was by Imus.

Trust me, I've heard far worse slurs about my religion and my ancestors. I have, after all, been a Mormon my entire life.
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I am not agreeing with Sharpton, but I do have an honest question.
As a Mormon, don't you believe that you worship a different God than the more mainstream Christian religions do (and you're probably aware that your church used to not call itself Christian to set itself apart)?
Isn't your concept of Heavenly Father and Jesus being seperate deities, with Jesus as the God of this universe, quite different than the protestant concept of true holy trinity rather than a godhead?
Again, I'm not trying to attack you. I am not voting for Romney because I don't agree with his politics.
My best friend of more than a decade is Mormon. I have nothing against the religion.
However, despite what some might say on this thread, it is not simply another protestant sect.
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It comes down to this....unless Mormons actually profess to not believe in G-d, and I really don't know much about what they believe, Sharpton made an offensive statement by demeaning their faith. PERIOD.

Once again, he has proven himself to be a bigot who gets away with it, at least in part, because too many people in this country are afraid to call a black man a bigot.

ADifferentOkie · May 10, 2007

outofplace said:

ADifferentOkie said:

mannheimadler said:

I'm a Mormon, and while I was offended by Sharpton's remark, I was nowhere near as appalled by it as I was by Imus.

Trust me, I've heard far worse slurs about my religion and my ancestors. I have, after all, been a Mormon my entire life.
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I am not agreeing with Sharpton, but I do have an honest question.
As a Mormon, don't you believe that you worship a different God than the more mainstream Christian religions do (and you're probably aware that your church used to not call itself Christian to set itself apart)?
Isn't your concept of Heavenly Father and Jesus being seperate deities, with Jesus as the God of this universe, quite different than the protestant concept of true holy trinity rather than a godhead?
Again, I'm not trying to attack you. I am not voting for Romney because I don't agree with his politics.
My best friend of more than a decade is Mormon. I have nothing against the religion.
However, despite what some might say on this thread, it is not simply another protestant sect.
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It comes down to this....unless Mormons actually profess to not believe in G-d, and I really don't know much about what they believe, Sharpton made an offensive statement by demeaning their faith. PERIOD.

Once again, he has proven himself to be a bigot who gets away with it, at least in part, because too many people in this country are afraid to call a black man a bigot.
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Mormons believe in God. I'm not saying they don't.
I am not agreeing with Sharpton, though I did say in another thread that I don't think Romney will win the nomination because so many people will not vote for a Mormon.
My point is, some have said in this thread that Mormons are another Christian religion. To me, that is up for debate. Again, they didn't call themselves Christians for something like 100 years.
If they want to claim the title of Christian, I have no problem with that. But they will tell you there are major differences between what they believe and what protestants believe.

Armchair_QB · May 10, 2007

The issue here isn't what the rest of the country believes about the LDS church or whether or not a Mormon can get elected President. The issue is that what Sharpton said is a classic example of hate speech that would get any white candidate or public official tarred and feathered. I've heard the tape several times today on the radio. He wasn't saying it in a joking manner. He was serious.

I didn't realize he had conned so many radio stations into carrying his radio show but if Imus lost his show for what he said so should Sharpton. Anything less is a double standard.

ADifferentOkie · May 10, 2007

Armchair_QB said:

The issue here isn't what the rest of the country believes about the LDS church or whether or not a Mormon can get elected President. The issue is that what Sharpton said is a classic example of hate speech that would get any white candidate or public official tarred and feathered. I've heard the tape several times today on the radio. He wasn't saying it in a joking manner. He was serious.

I didn't realize he had conned so many radio stations into carrying his radio show but if Imus lost his show for what he said so should Sharpton. Anything less is a double standard.
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You will notice I asked my question to mannheimadler, a professed Mormon. Call it a threadjack if you want, but I'm waiting for a response from him.
Sharpton is an idiot, and Romney will get more votes than he ever would.
I just wanted to know what mannheimadler thought about what I wrote.

Armchair_QB · May 10, 2007

I wasn't addressing you specifically.

ADifferentOkie · May 10, 2007

I apologize. I assumed you were.
Carry on.

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