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N.Y. Times: Let's get rid of the states

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Batman, May 11, 2016.

  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    That ain't it. Two states have been admitted to the union since the people of Puerto Rico -- who, historically, haven't shown any strong inclination toward statehood -- were granted full citizenship.
     
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    No new states will be admitted because the two leading candidates, D.C. and Puerto Rico, would be overwhelmingly Democratic and the Republicans in Congress just would never consider it. Quant is right, Puerto Ricans have historically been torn between their status quo, statehood and a relatively small independence movement, but their debt crisis may alter that equation.
     
  3. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    Revisionist history to suggest there was consensus regarding how sovereign states should be.
     
  4. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Right. The consensus manifested in the ratification of the Constitution (and, in a way, solidified in the Civil War) centered on how much less sovereign they would be (or, alternatively, how much of their sovereignty they would cede to the federal government).
     
  5. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    I've wondered whether many of the anti-federalists would recoil regarding how much power state and local governments now wield.
     
  6. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Divide Florida, Georgia gets the North quarter, the pan handle to Alabama.
    Abolish New Jersey and divide it between eastern Pa and So NY.
    Add Mass to Conn and RI. Eastern NY to Vermont/NH/Maine.
    Western Pa and West Va and Eastern Ohio.
     
  7. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Can you imagine how the anti-federalists would be treated today? How their ideas/concerns would be derided? Oh, wait, you're a regular on sj.com ... of course you can imagine that.
     
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  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The anti-federalists got everything their way for a few years with the Articles of Confederation.

    It didn't work.
     
  9. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Wait a minute. I thought there were 57 states?
     
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  10. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    57 Varieties
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

  12. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama can secede at any point they like.
     
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