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My First Rifle

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, May 8, 2013.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    No. But, there's also no correlation between more guns, and more gun crime, and most folks don't seem to understand that.

    In fact, as the article point out, most folks don't understand that there actually is less gun crime:

    Yet few Americans are aware of the dramatic drop, and more than half believe gun crime has risen, according to a newly released survey by the Pew Research Center.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Yes, most people think that the world is going to hell in a handbasket, when it's not. It's becoming less violent.

    But that absolutely does not mean that more guns does not mean more gun crime. The factors that lead to this result are so complex and multi-faceted that it's laughable to try to draw a pat conclusion like that.
     
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Probably true, but a lot of laws are the result of irresponsible people and the greater
    public good.

    If we had a strong national organization called the NDWI we would still be able to
    legally drive around drinking beer without wearing our seat belt.
     
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    50 % of murders comes from the race that makes up 10 % of the population.
     
  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Daisy makes BB guns, not the rifle in question.
     
  6. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Looks like we just got Boomed.
     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    No - used wrong name. If you read story pink gun is called "The Cricket"
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Guns in the hands of criminals -- like gang members in Chicago -- leads to more crimes.

    We already have laws against that.

    So, what's the purpose of all these proposed new gun laws?

    Despite the recent tragedy in Kentucky -- which resulted in the entire population of the state being branded backwards by one member -- it's guns in the hands of criminals that is the problem.

    Young kids, learning to hunt responsibly, with their parent or grandparent, and owning their own, appropriately sized gun are not the problem. They largely grow up to be responsible gun owners, with a respect for the power of a rifle.
     
  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Well, I mucked around a very little bit and realized that YF mixed up an absolute value with a relative value. The number of guns owned has increased, and the crime rate has decreased. However, the firearm ownership rate has fallen substantially over the last four decades. And per YF's link, the firearm crime rate is down, too. So those statistics could be taken as support for that commonly held notion. I stand corrected.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I agree. It's essentially a big moral panic, and the latest installment of the gun laws frenzy, the first being the kvetching over the gun show loophole. A lot of indignance backed by very little evidence.
     
  11. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Well Charlie Pierce book "Idiot America" mentions Kentucky prominently.Just saying.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    And, btw, it's easy to look down on folks who would by a gun for their child, and brand their "culture" as "backwards".

    Interestingly, I've never heard the African-American community in Chicago branded as "backwards".
     
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