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Murtha or Hoyer as majority leader

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Columbo, Nov 13, 2006.

  1. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    No. I said prominent.
     
  2. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    I don't see the word "prominent" anywhere in your post.
     
  3. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Whoops, I meant to.
     
  4. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    Actually, no you didn't. And I'll add Casey the new senator from Pennsylvania, and I believe that Murtha's pro-life as well.
     
  5. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Rep. John Barrow (D-GA)
    Rep. Madeleine Bordallo (D-GU)
    Rep. Marion Berry (D-AR)
    Rep. Allen Boyd (D-FL)
    Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC)
    Rep. Jerry Costello (D-IL)
    Rep. Lincoln Davis (D-TN)
    Rep. Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN)
    Rep. Tim Holden (D-PA)
    Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
    Rep. Mark Kennedy (D-MN)
    Rep. Dale Kildee (D-MI)
    Rep. Jim Langevin (D-RI)
    Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-IL)
    Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA)
    Rep. Charlie Melancon (D-LA)
    Rep. Mike McIntrye (D-NC)
    Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-WV)
    Rep. John Murtha (D-PA)
    Rep. James Oberstar (D-MN)
    Rep. Solomon Ortiz (D-TX)
    Rep. Colin Peterson (D-MN)
    Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH)
    Rep. Gene Taylor (D-MS)
     
  6. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Hold onto that list, Doc, and when the Dems' convention takes place in 2008, note that none of them will be given anything even resembling a place at the podium except for maybe one of them at 10 a.m. when no one's in the arena and the networks aren't covering. And even at those times when no one is watching, they won't be allowed to speak about bringing an end to abortions in the least.
     
  7. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    And why should they?

    I hate to tell you this, but pro-life people are far from a majority in this country.

    Most people are not fans of abortion, but don't think it should be illegal, either.

    You let me know when the Log Cabin speaker gets a prime time speaking spot, too, BTW.
     
  8. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Tell me, Zeke, what do you think the split in the country is on abortion? 75-25? 60-40? I'd be willing to bet it's a lot closer than you think.

    And does the fact that something wrong has popular support make it right? Slavery once had popular support, too. Was it right then?
     
  9. Chi City 81

    Chi City 81 Guest

    Did you just compare abortion to slavery?
     
  10. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Most studies show it at 60-40.

    And your initial comment had nothing to do with abortion being right or wrong,

    You implied that it was somehow wrong that the Democrats wouldn't put a pro-life speaker in prime time at the convention.

    There's no reason for them too.

    The Republicans, on the other hand, will continue to harp on it as a campaign issue and then do nothing to change the law, like they've done for 30 years.
     
  11. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    No. But I did point out that slavery once was favored by a majority.

    They're not comparable. Abortion is much worse. Many more innocents have been killed by abortion than slavery.
     
  12. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    You brought popularity into the discussion and that made me ask whether or not that makes it right or wrong. So let me ask you this, then, since you seem to be concerned: Do you believe abortion is right or wrong?
     
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