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Multiple deaths, including children, at Connecticut school shooting

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Uncle.Ruckus, Dec 14, 2012.

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  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    On surface yes but the reality is that's it's a can of worms starting with HIPPA laws.

    Would assume that Lanza was first identified with mental issues in school. No doubt that
    his school file is filled with detail of teacher observations starting from when ironically he attended Sandy Hook.

    I can't see anyone in the short term agreeing to violate the privacy of HIPPA laws to identify someone with a mental health issue. A lot of lawyers will get rich fast on that one.
  2. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Also, mental health issue does not automatically equal dangerous person.
  3. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    This story got me thinking about the mysterious case of Jeff Alm former DT of the Houston Oilers who after getting in a car accident that killed his best friend, took out his gun and shot himself in the head. In bringing together two other SJ threads of interest urban legend has it that Alm's best friend was also his lover and when police arrived on scene they found a body part of Alm's lodged in best friends mouth. You can use your imagination as to which part that might have been.

    Perhaps Alm would be alive today had there been gun control / gay marriage / open gays in NFL policy.
  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sure. But, should we take the risk?

    Aren't we talking about trying to stop these incidents?

    If you're bipolar, or have Asbergers, you can't have a gun. Is that unreasonable?

    I'm not against additional funding for mental illness, but to pretend it will stop these incidents is silly.

    Both these kids were middle class or better, and were receiving treatment.

    Holmes own doctor knew he was a threat, but couldn't get him on any kind of list that would have turned up in a background check.

    So, we're going to mandate background checks, and spend more money on mental health, but James Holmes would still be able to buy a gun.

    Next thing you're going to tell me is that I'm going to have to take off my shoes before boarding an airplane.

    It's theater. It won't solve the problem. We don't want to address the actual problem.
  5. Bob Cook

    Bob Cook Active Member

    Too many guns?

    (Sorry, YF, that was too easy.)
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    None of these proposals will keep a gun out of the hands of the next James Holmes or Adam Lanza.


    Go ahead Congress, pass some legislation, and pat yourselves on the back.
  7. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    Well, now that they have your permission ...
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Why stop at guns. Maybe people with mental health issue should not be allowed to drive
    cars either which to coin a phrase can be a loaded gun with the wrong person behind the
  9. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    I love how one side of the ball is all of a sudden for social services.

    You know those use tax dollars to fund?
  10. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    True or false; Holes and Lanza were receiving treatment.

    If true, who is to say that similar treatment would prevent the next Holmes or Lanza.

    FOlks have no problem putting law abiding gun owners on a "list", but we're against putting folks with mental illness on a list that can be checked prior to the sale of a gun?

    That's common sense? Really?
  11. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    He seemed a lot better off the last time I heard from him.

  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    So what is your solution?

    It's easy to bitch, but harder to come up with some sort of logical plan.
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