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MTV Music Video awards

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Smallpotatoes, Aug 31, 2006.

  1. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    I can't for the life of me name one award winner in all the years MTV has shown this, but I can remember hearing about Andrew Dice Clay's routine in 1989, the guy from Rage Against the Machine climbing to the top of some piece of scenery and the Madonna/Britney Spears/Christina Aguilera performance.
    Is the whole point of the show to make sure something happens that will be The Thing Everyone Talks About Tomorrow Morning?
    Does anybody care to guess what will be this year's The Thing Everyone Talks About Tomorrow Morning?
  2. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    That they actually, for one night, showed music on MTV?

    Anyhoo, I'm guessing a Justin Timberlake "wardrobe malfunction"
  3. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    The VMAs were good when MTV didn't know any better. Now, as SP points out, there's this overriding sense of "we gotta create a water cooler moment with something outrageous and spontaneous," which of course means that whatever happens has been plotted by a bunch of stiff suits.

    Madonna writhing around the stage in a wedding dress singing "Like A Virgin" was memorable because it announced, without a doubt, that she was no no one-hit wonder. Madonna locking lips with Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera? A tired and desperately pathetic act by a has-been.

    The Dice Clay thing was great because it's not everyday you get to watch a guy commit career suicide on live TV. MTV proved what a joke it really was when it tried to be everything to everyone and failed miserably in 1989 when it ironically gave best video of the year to Neil Young's "This Note For you," which it wouldn't air because it made fun of the rampant commercialism that pays the bills on MTV.

    When Janet Jackson ripped her shirt to show her black bra for two seconds during the 1990 VMAs, it was surprising because she'd crafted such a goody girl image up to that point and this felt like the moment when she started crafting a more adult image. But there was a certain goofy charm to it that was quite obviously missing when she flashed her enhanced tit at the MTV-produced Super Bowl halftime show.

    There's Axl Rose, noted gay basher, playing November Rain with Elton John, and Pee Wee Herman showing up a few weeks after he was arrested for whacking off in an adult theatre and saying "Heard any good jokes lately?" and Nirvana saying screw you to MTV And playing "Rape Me" instead of "Smells Like Teen Spirit."

    And nothing that happens tomorrow will top the sheer sizzling power of Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers performing "Jeremy" and "Give It Away" consecutively in 1992.

    So anyway, to answer your question, yes it used to matter, but now, like everything else on MTV, the VMAs are irrelevant to anyone over the age of 19.
  4. Dirk Legume

    Dirk Legume Active Member

    "You kids today have no idea of what it was like back then. We had videos, we had cool VJ's. Bahhhh, you youngsters have no idea what a real music channel is" [/BYH]

  5. Oz

    Oz Active Member

    When you mention Nirvana, you HAVE to mention Krist Novoselic throwing his bass way into the air, only to see it smash right into his face on the way down before he staggers off stage to end "Lithium." Absolutely classic moment.

    But even as I've grown older, I still watch it. It's not like I stopped listening to music when I turned 19.

    I didn't mind seeing Lil' Kim show up with a pastie on her left breast -- and Diana Ross bouncing it twice at the podium to make sure that's what she really saw on stage.

    Madonna vs. Courtney Love, post VMAs.

    Britney Spears performing nearly nude. And with snakes.

    Busta Rhymes presenting an award with Martha Stewart.

    Guns 'N Roses closing the VMAs with Buckethead giving KFC great product placement.

    And there are the Chris Rock monologues ... "50 Cent has taken more shots in the face than Jenna Jameson."

    The VMA might hardly be what they were to me as a kid, but they've got enough to make the DVR it, just to see if there were any moments that might belong to that group.
  6. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    How can MTV give out awards for music videos when it doesn't show music videos?
  7. DyePack

    DyePack New Member

    My feeling exactly. Why should I give a crap if a video I've never seen wins an award?
  8. Oz

    Oz Active Member

    Well, MTV2, MTV Jams and the like do. Like every Sunday night, I have my DVR set up to tape Subterranean, which is the current version of 120 Minutes/Alternative Nation. This past week, they had a VMA-week lineup that included videos that are either up for nomination or won a Moon Man in the past. The videos this week included ...

    Beck, "Hell Yes"
    Living Colour, "Cult of Personality"
    Franz Ferdinand, "Take Me Out"
    Weezer, "Buddy Holly"
    Alice In Chains, "Would?"
    Gnarls Barkley, "Crazy"
    Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
    Bjork, "It's Oh So Quiet"
    Prodigy, "Breathe"

    ... In other words, a great lineup. Point is, if how have the alternative MTV and VH1 channels, then you can watch videos there 24/7 with no commercial breaks. Just don't expect the same on the original, where it all began.
  9. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Oz, my fellow Black & Gold fanboy, I'll take your word for it.

    But everytime I check Ch. 331 and the surrounding stations on my DirecTV, there's nothing but Real World/Laguna Beach/Pimp My Ride/Viva la Bam/etc. on all the MTV networks.
  10. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Damn, now I feel bad. Oz watches MTV. I like Oz. I insulted Oz. I feel bad.

    I'm sorry Oz. Maybe I'll change my screen name to Justin Timberlake Rocks My Body to make...up...for...it...OH YEAH I can't change screen names anymore! Suck it, Oz!!!! :D
  11. Chuck~Taylor

    Chuck~Taylor Active Member

    I hate Jack Black. He just stick with the Nickelodeon Award shows. I think he's been the host on there for 4 years runnin' now. To me he's not funny at all. Yeah I said it, F U NACHO LIBRE!
  12. Oz

    Oz Active Member

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know I DVR'd the VMAs in part to watch J-Timberlake's performance tonight. (Yes, I am serious. And yes, that Sexy Back song rocks.)
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