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Most overrated baseball player of all time

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by yourbuddy, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. fever_dog

    fever_dog Active Member

    kerry wood.
  2. GoPadres

    GoPadres Guest

    Jeter is overrated because he is made out to be the greatest shortstop of his time when he's not even the best shortstop on his TEAM.
  3. MertWindu

    MertWindu Active Member

    ok, Exhibit C is useless, because that's a vote and not an objective measure. Exhibit A relies on the quality of his teammates, so that's not real helpful either. Ryan's positive numbers more than outweigh what you've got left.
  4. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

  5. Left_Coast

    Left_Coast Active Member

    Yeah, those Angels teams were so great when he pitched. It's a testament to him that he DID win 300 games.
  6. GoPadres

    GoPadres Guest

    I have no idea how you can say that about a guy who threw seven no-hitters (the next closest is *FOUR*) and struck out 1,500 more guys than the pitcher who is (rightfully) considered by some to be the best since Walter Johnson (Clemens).

    Ryan was probably one of the most feared pitchers in the last 30 years.
  7. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    If Jeter was drafted by the Pirates, would he have have four rings? You get a clue.

    Also helps him that he doesn't look like Melido Perez.
  8. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Beat me to it. Had he never played in New York, he would not have sniffed the Hall of Fame.
  9. fever_dog

    fever_dog Active Member

    greg maddux won a cy young with a bad cubs team in 1992. it is possible to excel and even help your team a little when it is bad.
  10. yourbuddy

    yourbuddy New Member

    I know that wins are partially dependent on teammates, which is why I also pointed out that his ERA was rarely among the league leaders.  So it's not as if Ryan was a great pitcher toiling on mediocre teams his entire career.

    The Cy Young vote is useful because it shows that during his career he was almost never regarded as one of the very best pitchers.  Nowadays many people forget that Ryan was merely an above-average pitcher for most of his career, with just a few dominant seasons mixed in.  He's nowhere close to being one of the all-time greatest pitchers.
  11. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Gotta be Brook Jacoby.
  12. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    Derek Jeter
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