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MORE shootings ... this time in El Paso and Dayton

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by melock, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    You have an stunningly much rosier view of the status of mental health evaluation than I will ever have and a head-in-the-sand view of government information collection.

    A true-false exam that was created as a tool for evaluation should not be administered by the government to determine whether somebody should own the gun he/she has the right to.

    The MMPI would be cracked before it was even implemented as a test for gun ownership. The only people who would be tripped up by the MMPI would be the extreme outliers of the population with mental health issues.
  2. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    The only test that should be imposed on a gun purchaser is a simple one. Do you need it? Prove it. Hunting firearms, sure. Handguns, better have a damn good reason. Military style/grade weapons. No fucking way.
  3. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  4. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member


    But the reality is that the government already knows quite a bit about you and your health, mental and otherwise.

    Especially if you use Medicare or Medicaid or a VA hospital. So I'm not sure how a blind mental competency test before a gun purchase is any better or worse than that.

    And we all agree to common sense limits on our Constitutional rights every day. Your 1st Amendment right to free expression doesn't cover child pornography, for example.

    A mental health profile for a gun purchase will probably never happen, but there's no reason to exclude it from the discussion out of hand, either.

    We're just brainstorming here.
  6. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    Those programs you cite were collections of communications with a direct connection to overseas data without any suggestion that individuals' information was being reviewed by the government, just that it may have been available in the massive amount of data collected. You are suggesting that people submit to a simplistic psychiatric test that necessarily will be reviewed by the government. I repeat, good lord.
  7. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Do you believe you have a Constitutional right to all guns? Or are there some that are not protected?
  8. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    I am still waiting for the day when Trumpist Pseudo Christians pray that God melts down guns.
  9. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    I will point to another member's (Amy's?) posts about Scalia's opinion in Heller.
  10. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    Do not — I repeat, do not — hold your breath.
  11. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Fascinating to me how completely we've demonized notions of 'government' since the Reagan years.

    Government's just us.
  12. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Well, sometimes.
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