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MLB's Next Commissioner

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. WCIBN

    WCIBN Active Member

    How soon after Manfred takes over as commissioner does Bud Selig get picked for HOF induction?

    Next available ballot?

    Three years?

    Five years?

    Never?
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Next summer. Bowie Kuhn is in, no reason Selig shouldn't be.
     
  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

  4. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    It will be three years.

    The Golden Era ballot is for 2015. The Pre-Integration ballot is for 2016. The Expansion Era ballot is for 2017.

    Considering his age (he'd be approaching 83 if form holds), if they wanted to fudge and get him in on the Golden Era ballot they could say he entered baseball in the window of the ballot (up to 1972).

    I could also see them doing that because there isn't a slam dunk holdover from the last Golden ballot -- Jim Kaat was five votes shy, Gil Hodges and Minnie Minoso were six and Tony Oliva was seven short.
     
  5. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Selig was a minority owner of the Milwaukee Braves back in the late 1950s.
     
  6. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    This guy seems like the driest piece of toast around.
    This is what's in demand in the job market, members and moderators.
     
  7. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Kepner sniffed around that sentiment the other day. Said Manfred underwhelmed when he spoke, possibly out of deference to the final 5 months of Selig's reign, and that he could have said something exciting -- at least touted the small-market teams (Brewers, Royals, A's, etc) who happen to lead their divisions etc etc.

    "I really don’t want to get too deeply today into agendas."

    Really, Mr. Commissioner? How about a little deeply then?

    Dry toast, indeed.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/15/sports/baseball/mlbs-new-commissioner-watches-a-chance-fly-by.html?_r=0
     
  8. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Of course. The only really colorful commissioners they've ever had were Landis and Giamatti.
     
  9. Rainman

    Rainman Well-Known Member

    Big fan of Landis.

    Apart from banning notable players, he set a double standard when he ordered John McGraw to sell all gambling interests, though he did not order McGraw to sever ties with disreputable high-rollers like Arnold Rothstein. This incites the debate that Landis was able to be swayed by the nature of bias. Later, when Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Joe Wood, and Dutch Leonard (by his accusation) were alleged to have fixed a game, Landis exonerated the trio on the grounds that they had simply conspired to bet and not maliciously corrupt the game's integrity. Their innocence, however likely, would probably not have stood with Landis had the charge been made during his first days as Commissioner in the midst of the Black Sox scandal. The event allegedly occurred in 1919, the same year of the crooked World Series. Buck Weaver did not survive the association with gambling, and it is doubtful that the implicated trio would have either.

    We'll never know if he would have in fact allowed Babe Ruth to barnstorm because Ruth, always playing his own game, decided to call Landis twelve hours before he departed. An angry Landis, knowing that his title granted him the power to reside over all things baseball, set further precedent as Commissioner when he struck down on baseball games (the Ruth tour) outside of Major League Baseball. At the same time

    His contradictory actions in 1921 also impacted the game when he allowed John McGraw secure Irish Muesel after denying him Heinie Groh in a trade under similar circumstances. From there on, owners realized that profitable transactions also required Landis' favor. It was only a question of finding him in a good mood.
     
  10. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    At least Bud had some business pedigree.
    This guy is a garden-variety Ivy League lawyer.
    We've seen with the president that is not indicative of leadership competency.
     
  11. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    If only the asshole baseball owners would have made George W Bush baseball commissioner after Faye Vincent instead of Bud Selig ...
     
  12. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Abbott, do you think the president is a joke?
     
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