Michael Moore is scum

No, what I said was that she's never done anything for anyone anywhere for whatever reason ever. And anyone who thinks that this NYP story isn't about covering St. Rudy's as for his betrayal of the 9/11 workers really needs to get out more.
You're so caught up in this whole "You don't criticize your own side" nonsense that it's no longer worth responding to. No, as a matter of fact, I think all the damage done to this country over the past seven years does happen to come from what styles itself the "conservative movement." I think it's going to take decades for anyone to clear the wreckage. I think Coulter is a heedless shrew who has a career at all because of the sugar-daddy foundations of the lunatic Right. Say what you will about Moore -- and I still haven't forgiven him for supporting Nader and helping to bring on this disaster -- but he built his career himself, from nothing, in the most American of ways. Did he take these people to Cuba to see if they could get better treatment than they could here? Yes. Did they? I'm anxious to learn. Consodering what you seem to think of the Cuban system, you should be, too.

 

Yeah, you're right. Nothing says fun like dropping $10 on a movie ticket, buying some popcorn and a drink and settling in for two hours of good, solid health care talk.

 

Hey, Pube eats that stuff up. Gives him ammunition so he can come on here and impress us with his ... with his ... with his ...

 

Interesting that Hillary was mentioned as someone who helped bring health care to its current state.

I wonder if Moore bashes her in the film. If she is clearly trailing Obama by the time it's finished, he will. If she's the clear Democratic front-runner by that time . . . let's just say it will be interesting.

And as for Fahrenheit 9/11 pushing people the other way. . . . . I don't see how anyone could argue against this, the idea that his loudmouth (and Hollywood's, for that matter) helped push some fence voters the other way. Which is why no one on this thread has disputed it.

 

Stuff. With his stuff.

 

You'd better get to know the ins and outs sooner or later, or you WILL, not could, be up a creek.

 

Yes, Cuba is wonderful. That's why there are scores of people in south Florida turning '57 Chevys into rafts so they can get there. Oh, wait ...

 

No. No, no, no.

Here's what you're not seeing. I could know every nook and cranny about such a thing ... and it's still not going to change what's going to happen to it, and how that will affect me.

I think I'll just stay uninformed and blissfully unbored, and if the health-care situation has me in a bind when I'm 70, it was going to either way. The difference will be, I will not have wasted my healthy years wringing my hands about it.

If you enjoy debating/discussing it, god bless ya. But don't think for a moment that you're going to change anything.

 

shot,

I'm young enough and full of enough piss and vinegar not to give the faintest fuck about any of it. I don't enjoy discussing it or gathering bits of knowledge any more than I do for my taxes. I accumulate because I don't intend to be cheated by anyone. It's as simple as that.

Anyone approaching or over the hill can't say that a viable health plan is a diminishing priority. Sure, nobody gets out of this thing alive, but if I should fall from grace, I'm not and my family is not going to get stuck holding the rod.

 

Get back to me with the ticket count for Sicko.

You are bizarro Roy Jones, post-for-post, you are the most worthless contributor to this site.

Fucking chronic... terminal.

 

And I figure I cover my bases just enough that, if I go down, there are so many people going down with me that the screaming will force change.

That's enough for me.