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McCain self-destructs on The Daily Show

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Point of Order, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member


  2. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Well there's a real informative post
  3. What were you expecting, spnited? "What do you expect from a minority hire?"
  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    no offense, W-B, but that made more sense than this does.
  5. No offense taken. I'm just starting to sense a pattern.
  6. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Link, if possible, please. Or a summary of what happened, if anyone knows.
  7. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    I'm sure you'll see it excerpted on Good Morning America or somewhere tomorrow, but McCain and Jon Stewart had an authentic back-and-forth about Iraq for two segments of the show, and McCain basically layed an egg.

    It was his same old bullshit, really, but trotted out in front of a key audience in a format that totally exposed his position on the war as untenable (even under questioning by a non-wonkish comedian). When I heard he was going to be on the show I was surprised he agreed to do it.

    McCain trotted out the line that we're hurting the troops by criticizing the president (to which Stewart pointed out, aren't we hurting them more by extending their tours from 12 mos. to 15 mos., by sitting them in the middle of Baghdad building walls and playing referee, and by not taking care of them properly when they get home? and in doing so, where the fuck does McCain get off criticizing those who criticize the president instead of tackling the tangible problems soldiers face), that what Bush has going now is a "new strategy," that if we extricate ourselves from the middle of a Civil War we're "surrendering to terrorists," etc.

    Stewart's not the best debator, but he basically just sunk McCain's candidacy. Aternativley, it could be argued that he justpounded in the final nail. Either way, McCain's toast.

    Sorry if the headline was too much hyperbole for you. I just couldn't believe he went on TDS and came off so poorly.
  8. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    McCain has been on the Daily Show often in the past. It's not unusual for him to show up two or three times a year. He's trying to boost his candidacy right now, but his complete support of Iraq is what's sinking him, and so continuously talking about it only makes him sink faster. As long as this war goes on he has no shot at becoming president.
  9. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    This guy's fade into the second tier of politics is long overdue, IMO. But it's a long way until November 2008 and the Republican field is wacky. Pretty hard to say anyone's "done" at this point. If a lying sack of shit fucktard like Bush can get elected, McCain can get elected.
  10. Point of Order

    Point of Order Active Member

    I hear what you're saying and I don't disagree.

    Having said that, it's like when Tyson bit Holyfield's ear the first time... you knew Mike was on his way to a terrific loss, it was just a matter of time. The same as when the starting pitcher makes the fatal (but maybe not the final) pitch, or when Fonzy jumped the shark.

    Politically speaking McCain's a dead man walking.
  11. writing irish

    writing irish Active Member

    Well, he's certainly a very weak candidate at this point, that's for sure, although I didn't see tonight's debacle, but I'll take your word. Only the mediocrity of the current Republican field keeps him statistically in the race. I've never been a McCain fan, but I'm surprised a military man would take such a strategically flawed stance on the war.
  12. ifilus

    ifilus Well-Known Member

    Timing is everything...

    MANCHESTER, N.H., April 24 -- John McCain will formally launch his bid for the White House on Wednesday in the state that vaulted him to national prominence eight years ago, and if a candidate from either party needs a fresh start, it is the embattled senator from Arizona.

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