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Mariota or Winston?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by JackReacher, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Weird that Hale himself hasn't tweeted that out yet.
     
  2. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    From a Twitter search, it sounds like he broke the news in a radio appearance, so that could be the reason.
     
  3. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Gotcha. Thanks.

    I was kinda hoping he'd stay another year, just for the circus of it. No pun intended.
     
  4. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member

    Since they each won a Heisman, neither.
    Heisman QBs have a poor 30-year track record in the NFL.You could call it the Heisman QB jinx. How many Super Bowls (or playoff games) has this group of Heisman QBs won? Doug Flutie ('84), Vinnie Testaverde ('86), Andre Ware ('89), Ty Detmer ('90), Gino Toretta ('92), Charlie Ward ('93), Danny Wuerffel ('96), Chris Weinke ('00), Eric Crouch ('01), Carson Palmer ('02), Jason White ('03), Matt Leinert ('04), Troy Smith ('06), Tim Tebow (07), Sam Bradford ('08), Cam Newton ('10), RG III ('11) and Johnny Manziel ('12).
     
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Tebow won a playoff game, he fuckin' A did.
     
  6. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    And Cam won one this week!
     
  7. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    Testaverde won two playoff games as the starter.
     
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  8. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    So the last QB Heisman winner to win a SB is Plunkett?
     
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  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Drew Brees finished 4th and 3rd in successive years to Ron Dayne, Michael Vick, Joe Hamilton, Chris Weinke and Josh Huepel.

    Whats a man gotta do to win?
     
  10. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    He and Staubach are the only ones, I think.

    Elway, Young, Theismann and Peyton Manning all finished second. Brees, Aikman and Eli Manning finished third.

    EDIT: Paul Hornung was a QB at Notre Dame, but didn't play there in the pros obviously.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2015
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Not only are they the only two Heisman QBs to win Super Bowls, they're the only two to win NFL titles if you throw in the pre-Super Bowl era. Of course, quarterbacks won it way less often then.
     
  12. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    It's not just the Heisman quarterbacks that have sucked. The last winner to have any sort of career of note in the NFL was Carson Palmer (2002). The last Hall of Famer or guy who seems on that track was Charles Woodson (1997). Since 1989, those two, Eddie George, Ricky Williams, Cam Newton and maybe Desmond Howard and Mark Ingram are the only Heisman winners you can say had NFL careers you'd remember for the right reasons. And I only threw Ingram in there because it looked like he turned a corner this season, after he seemed headed for a nondescript release in the spring of 2015.
    All of that is really weird, too, considering the murderer's row of winners between 1976 (Tony Dorsett) and 1988 (Barry Sanders). You had four NFL hall of famers, another guy who should be in (Tim Brown) and five others who had at least respectable pro careers. The only flameouts were Charles White, Mike Rozier and Doug Flutie, and even they had their moments.
    Maybe this is the curse of Andre Ware. The drop in post-Heisman success started with him.
     
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