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'Marco Rubio's success in last night's debate should terrify women'

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    One stat I've never seen is the percentage of raped women who become pregnant and the percentage of those women who get abortions. Is it that large a number (granting that one is too large a number)?
    But aren't a much larger percentage of the women who are in "coerced motherhood" weren't "coerced" into having sex?
     
  2. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Maybe we could have a nationwide bank of Duggar surrogates willing to accept implanted embryos of any woman who doesn't want to give birth to the child of rape or incest.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Your point being that it doesn't happen to that many women, so we shouldn't care? Bullshit.
     
  4. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Not what he said at all. Indeed, he said that even "one is too large a number."
     
  5. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Trump and Carson have already had far more staying power than the conventional wisdom ever believed.
     
  6. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    Writing off all the dead babies is the respectful stance to take.
     
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  7. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    I think you're right about Trump. Carson I don't see holding up much longer.
     
  8. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    The Republican establishment, or what's left of it, doesn't run the party and hasn't for some time. It has a tenuous grasp on the Senate. But all those local elections in statehouses and school boards and regulatory commissions? No. The establishment is not strong there. It is rife with political neophytes carrying the water of quasi-religious corporate interests, marching orders delivered by storefront "think tanks" and "freedom" organizations.

    If it did run the party, Mitt Romney would have been president. Romney wasn't allowed to run in 2008 or 2012 on what he actually believed and, in 2008, McCain was saddled with the most reductive political force we've seen in many years.
     
  9. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    What did Romney believe that he wasn't allowed to say?
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Actually, that's exactly where he was headed. "Granting that one is too large a number" was his attempt to head off the counter-argument to his attempt to dismiss the women impregnated by rape because the numbers are relatively small.
     
  11. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Stipulating that that's Rubio's actual position, it isn't as extreme as many would have you believe. That's the position held by roughly one in five registered voters, and while that proportion has fluctuated over the years, it hasn't fluctuated that much.

    One might also note that Herself's position -- restrictions only "at the very end of the third trimester"* -- ain't exactly mainstream.


    *Sometimes defined as "birth".
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Your point assumes that abortion is murder and that life begins at conception, which is far from universal acceptance.
     
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