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Manny Ramirez Retires. Quits. Whatever, He's Done.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by 21, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    This should say, Manny Ramirez quits.
     
  2. Mark2010

    Mark2010 Active Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    One of my most disliked players of all times. Belongs in the Hall of Shame along with the other drug cheats. Just hope he stays gone for good.
     
  3. crusoes

    crusoes Active Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    Most disliked? He's not even in the top five.
     
  4. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    The only people who dislike Manny are the GMs he's burned.
     
  5. slappy4428

    slappy4428 Active Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    Now had he played for the Yankees...
     
  6. wicked

    wicked Well-Known Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    How long before Manny signs with an independent league team and starts his comeback, saying he's found God and he's a changed man?

    Maybe he can even mentor the youth.
     
  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    GMs he burned? The Red Sox got value for their money, namely the two world championships they never would've won without Ramirez. I don't think the Dodgers can complain, either.
    Manny was an enormous pain in the ass as an employee. But his bosses got value for money. Even the Rays don't have to pay most of what signed him for.
    The drug moralists here make me very tired. They are, to put it politely, full of shit. It is, I believe, an attitude that allows them to feel superior to others, and has no other real basis.
     
  8. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    Because his numbers are dwarfed by the other two.
     
  9. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    Sorry, but comparing someone who could be giving crystal meth to your kids and someone who used steroids to improve their stamina and muscles puts you on the losing side of this argument. Now, if we define greenies, especially greeny juice by the gallon in the case of Willie Mays, as an illegal drug, then we'll be pulling plaques going back decades. The stats are the stats. The renown is the renown. Pretending that Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens weren't the icons of their baseball generation is as absurd as vacated Final Four appearances. They just can't be unseen.
     
  10. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    Given all the cheating that went on in and around the Red Sox, they should probably have their titles stripped. At the very least, Red Sox fans should acknowledge The Curse would likely still exist today if not for rampant PED use. Tainted championships.
     
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    From earlier in this thread. ... I am not making any bets, because I have no idea where attitudes will be in 5 or 10 years from now. There is serious steroid fatique already, obviously. But if Bonds does even a day of prison time, I think his chances diminish quite a bit, even if an ARod, for example, is set to glide right in.
     
  12. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Re: Manny Ramirez Retires

    As a Hall voter, I do not see how a perjury conviction should alter my opinion of Bonds' candidacy in any way. I already assume he's lying about taking PEDs. What's the jury got to do with his baseball career?
     
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