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Little Boy makes a lot of noise and changes our society

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by boots, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    Not to mention that if you had dropped an atomic bomb on Germany then, it would have been hard to tell any difference
     
  2. boots

    boots New Member

    We had the technology to drop it in Europe BEFORE Germany surrendered.
     
  3. StormSurge

    StormSurge Active Member

    So bombing Japan would've been okay if we dropped on on Germany too, just too prove the US isn't racist?
     
  4. GB-Hack

    GB-Hack Active Member

    Yes, and we had troops on the ground on the European continent as well.

    You're suggesting it would have been a good idea to blow up Germany while all the troops that landed and were working their way through France, Holland, Belgium and Italy were going to be in the radiation zone? That's a radical strategy.
     
  5. statrat

    statrat Member

    Also, the bomb was not even tested until July, and that the war in Europe was essentially over by March/ early April 1945 as the Soviets entered Berlin and the Allied powers began dividing up the country. Seeing as how the Russians already had much of Germany and eastern Europe, we wanted to leave no chance of them getting Japan as well. While it is true that the Allies had a largely favorable view of the German people ( many occupying troops found them more likeable than French) and likened the japanese to monkey, the decision to drop the Atomic bomb on Japan had nothing to do with racism. It was the desire to get the war over and keep Japan out of Soviet hands.
     
  6. Captain_Kirk

    Captain_Kirk Well-Known Member

    I'm still not buying the original premise of this thread. Unless I've missed something, we haven't seen a rash of atomic or nuclear bombings around the world since Japan. And the capability would have been developed in any event to where multiple countries around the globe would possess such today.

    One could argue instead that as a result of seeing the immense damage caused in Japan, it has lessened the likelihood of seeing these types of weapons being used in the years since then.
     
  7. IU90

    IU90 Member

    That's so freaking irresponsible to make that racism claim without knowing the facts. The most obvious reason we didn't drop the A-Bomb on Germany is because Germany had already been invaded and had already surrendered before the weapon had been tested and approved for use. And if you think we had any compunction about leveling German cities, I suggest you learn a little bit about the war, you might start by reading about the carpet bombing of Dresden.


    But, hey, why learn the actual facts when they might get in the way of your chance to make irresponsible ignorant racism accusations aimed at all of American society.
     
  8. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Well, it's good that you have an opinion, at least. That's about all I have to say, because it's clear you believe your version, the origin of which is a little nebulous and questionable.
     
  9. Beaker

    Beaker Active Member

    First of all, we had barely completed production of atomic weapons before we dropped the first one on Hiroshima. Second, even if the bomb was ready, there's no way in hell our allies would have ever let us drop the bomb on Germany. The costs would have been too high for everyone concerned, and Churchill especially was concerned about the loss of civilian life.

    And the fact of the matter is, even if we hadn't dropped the bomb in Hiroshima, we already had the technology and the atomic race had already begun.
     
  10. ThomsonONE

    ThomsonONE Member

    Are you really this stupid? The Trinity test was on July 16, 1945, more than 2 months after VE day. How is it we could have dropped it on Germany if we wanted to?
     
  11. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    I agree with this sentiment. Despite the fact that countries have threatened to use them in the past, having seen the type of destruction they caused probably kept them from being used at some point during the Cold War.
     
  12. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Boots, you're wrong. The Trinity test happened July 16, two months AFTER Germany surrendered. Hell, the Y-12 plant in Oak Ridge didn't even begin to produce usable U-235 until early 1945.

    And racism as the cause? OK...you go with that if you want.
     
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