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Leadoff? Lead-off?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by tonyshunny, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. tonyshunny

    tonyshunny New Member

    Somebody, please, give me a clarification on when to use a hyphen and when not to.
     
  2. tonyshunny

    tonyshunny New Member

    lead-off single?
     
  3. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Active Member

    No hyphen: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090411&content_id=4222310&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
    http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=538322
    http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/04/brent-lillibridge-newest-white-sox-leadoff-hitter-in-shuffled-lineup.html
    http://www.star-telegram.com/284/story/1315134.html

    Hyphen: http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/mlbnews.asp?articleID=201225 (which is a pickup from The Sports Network).

    And a Google news search for lead-off leads off with Google asking me if I want to search for leadoff.

    Having never hyphenated leadoff myself — and with the preponderance of evidence available — I conclude no hyphen.
     
  4. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's my German training, but I tend to avoid hyphens or separations in compound words (halftime, leadoff, layup, centerfielder). More times than not, the AP stylebook backs me up.
     
  5. mediaguy

    mediaguy Active Member

    It's like a ton of other two-word verb phrases in sports (kickoff, shutout): one word as a noun or adjective, two words as a verb. The leadoff batter, Joe Grammar, is also scheduled to lead off the fourth inning.
     
  6. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Who's managing that team? Joe Grammar can't run or hit.
     
  7. fishwrapper

    fishwrapper Active Member

    DING. Ding. ding.
     
  8. yes.
    In that instance it would hyphenated.
     
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    I'm going to blog about him not swinging the bat.
     
  10. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Active Member

    Nobody else can, either. Opposing pitcher's gone 9-up-9-down.

    It's obvious that Joe Grammer is a member of the Washington Nationals. (Hi Moddy! :D )
     
  11. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    Not for me/us. Always one word.

    On a related note, I've been thinking of making a style change here that would be very simple. All -up constructions one word.

    makeup, changeup, matchup, etc.

    There are some double vowel issues, but I think those are preferable to doing some words hyphenated and some one word.
     
  12. mike311gd

    mike311gd Active Member

    I always write leadoff (single, hitter, etc.).
     
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