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Le Batard taking year off from paper

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Small Town Guy, Apr 17, 2008.

  1. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Mizzou,

    I'll see what I can do for one of your buds for an in at the Plain-Dealer.
     
  2. silentbob

    silentbob Member

    Yes, there likely will be hundreds applying for that position. I, however, am only friends with five.

    So he's an apologist. Not my cup of tea, certainly gets old, but must every columnist write the same way? Some are homers. Some are bitter. Some are old-school. Some are feature writers with a column sig.
     
  3. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    True... And some berate their beat writers in the paper for breaking legitimate news. Others accuse the cops of targeting athletes in DUI arrests.

    I'll give DLB credit. He's almost never boring and there isn't a columnist out there who pisses me off more often and I mean that as a compliment.
     
  4. awriter

    awriter Active Member

    I'm not defending (or criticizing) LeBatard, but if reporters were paid more, maybe they wouldn't feel a need to supplement their income.
     
  5. Credibility?
    You're on mushrooms.
     
  6. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    I disagree with the credibility/exposure argument too. Maybe 10-20 years ago it was a great coup for a paper to have a columnist on ESPN or on radio, dropping the paper's name at every turn. But now at every major paper it seems like the top voices get their 2 cents or more at other outlets. It's hardly a novelty. Now, instead of someone reading Joe Bigshot because he saw him on ESPN or heard him on radio and wants to see his take in print, that same someone is saying screw the paper, I caught Joe Bigshot already on Around the Horn or wherever.
     
  7. Joe Williams

    Joe Williams Well-Known Member

    Exactamundo. At least with the beat writers -- who make occasional appearances on radio or TV, hardly the same time-stealer as a daily show lasting two or three hours! -- they report for the paper and then give some opinion or background on the air. They don't "give away" what the paper pays them for. Columnists give opinion on the air that either already is in the paper or will be in the paper with their next piece -- either way, that frees the listener from having to pay for it. Newspapers are kidding themselves in this day and age if they think the crossover lines their pockets. It simply lines the moonlighting staffer's pockets, and usually gouges into hours that the paper is paying the guy/gal for in the first place.
     
  8. silentbob

    silentbob Member

    So let me get this straight -- When Bob Ley says to 10 million ESPN viewers "We bring in Larry Lester from the Orlando Sun Picayune" ... you're telling me it's not good exposure for the newspaper?

    You're telling me that a reader would say 'Screw Larry Lester, I'm not reading his copy because I've already heard him on TV? I'll go read their competition because I've never heard of their writers."

    Do you think there's a marketing expert alive that would agree with that logic?'
     
  9. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    If Mr. Lester has fatal shortcomings/blind spots/prejudices which have been fully and utterly exposed through the electronic media . . . very, very possibly, yes . . .
     
  10. Exposure does not equal credibility.
    Visibility, yes. Marketing? Absolutely.
    But credibility? Not even close.
     
  11. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    Replace the name Larry Lester with Dick Vitale . . . and tell me if you would go running to the Orlando Sun Picayune to see what Mr. Vitale was writing.
     
  12. 1HPGrad

    1HPGrad Member

    Tard has been beyond loyal to 1HP. He could have bolted any day for the past 10 years. Yeah, we too grew tired of reading his copy-and-paste "you want a bad ass in the huddle on fourth down, don't expect a choirboy at the club at 2 a.m." column every time an athlete got in trouble. So what?

    If your choice is to play with him or compete against him, you'll be a lot happier with option A. There were many mornings that Tard's reporting and writing made the Herald look good and the S-S look lost.

    Classic Tard: Big news goes down about 11:50 p.m., 25 minutes before we're off the floor. We have it alone. Tard calls in, wants to scrap his column, rewrites. We tear up the front. Twenty minutes later, in addition to the news that he helped gather, we get Tard's perspective. Screaming headline. Next morning, S-S has the result of the previous game. A complete beatdown. We didn't always win that convincingly, of course, but on the big stories, Tard frequently provided beat writers, editors with tips, insights. Skeptics will say that's because he's riding to games with Ricky Williams. Whatever works.

    If we were drafting columnists, he'd be a lottery pick.
     
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