Lawrence O'Donnell Meltdown

You don't know any of that for a fact, YF ... but then again, folks on your side don't usually let little things like facts get in the way.

O'Donnell was handing this clueless lying wingnut his ass... which is why Weenie Scarbrough stepped in to save him.

"We didn't know who hit us on 9/11."

Three words for ya, Thiessen: Aug. 6 memo.

 

He was either lying then, when he said they got everything they needed, or he's lying now when he says that they're getting information from him now.

It can't be both.

And while we may have known it was AQ that hit us, we didn't know enough about them.

Just like Brennan admitted that we know very little about AQ in the Arabian Peninsula. Then, they drop one of their operatives into our lap, and instead of trying to get intelligence out of him, we Mirandize him & start working on a criminal case.

Insane.

 

A. It could be both. Gibbs could have said they thought at that point that they got everything he needed although I really doubt he said that. If you could please post the transcript or YouTube where he said that that would be helpful. I really doubt a press secretary would ever say "we got everything we needed" from a plane bombing suspect. And then, once he began his sieve-like spilling, they could have gotten even more than they thought possible.

B. Had the Aug. 6 PDB telling of the upcoming attacks even deigned to interrupt that current president's monthlong vacation in the stratosphere <brucereference>, a simple phone call with a heads-up to the FAA might have been helpful in changing some of the things that went down on that fateful day. Or perhaps a call to the FBI to be on extra alert, might have connected some of the dots of that little problem in Minnesota ... or Oklahoma ... or Florida, with the flight schools.

 

If that's what you call a meltdown, I wish progressive-minded Americans would have meltdowns more often.

 

Nothing wrong with well timed meltdowns. Maybe O'Donnell was practicing Nero Linguistic programing.

What's funny to see here is many falling into party lines to defend or chastise O'Donnell. Group think at its finest.

 

How is this any different from saying that a sports writer is unable to analyze sports because he has never been an athlete?

MSNBC is becoming almost as unwatchable as Fox News. They are like Obama's little guard dogs. You can't say anything remotely critical of the admin without being attacked. I voted for Obama and was fed up with the Bush admin, but I have some concerns about the way the new admin has handled some of their early tests in the War on Terror. Our democracy sucks right now, because there is no longer room for a rational debate about the issues. You are either for water-boarding or you are a pussy. You are either against military tribunals and interrogation programs or you are a torture-monger. In the end, this is what's going to fuck us, because each side has forced the other to become too extreme.

 

Nothing wrong with a measured, cogent response to a bundle of incendiary lies, either.

 

I think the idea of our government torturing suspects in violation of the Geneva Conventions is a tad different than a discussion of the nickel defense. But maybe that's just me.

 

Wait. Wait. Wait. According to the left, Bush lied when he said that Iraq had WMDs -- even though the previous administration & every intelligence service around the world believed this to be true, but Gibbs makes a preposterous -- just false on the face of it -- statement, and he's not lying?

He said things to this affect on numerous occasions, but here he is on FoxNews Sunday:

Here's a link to the PDB: http://www.agonist.org/annex/pdb.htm

Does it say anywhere that hijackings are planned or that airliners would be used in such an attack? Bin Laden had long wanted to attack us here. Where's the new information in that PDB?

What actions were suggested & ignored? What should they have done?

Compare & contrast that to the case of the Holiday Bomber where they had his name in advance. His father waned us that he had been radicalized and was thought to be training in Yemen.

We couldn't even be bothered to revoke his Visa, let alone put him on a no-fly list or alert TSA or anyone else to look out for him.

The Obama administration had much more specific intelligence & did nothing with it. We got very lucky on 12/25.

 

The left???

LOFL

 

It varies, but on average, he's markedly more snotty on the radio.

The show's well off-balance. Mika may pipe up occasionally, but seldom follows through in a meaningful way.

 

According to anyone who didn't have their lips firmly affixed to the behind of the haughty, spoiled, sarcastic, self-serving, dry-drunk, mama's boy . . . yes.