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Lame baseball scoring question

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by 1000questions, May 7, 2008.

  1. 1000questions

    1000questions New Member

    Not a sexy topic at all, but was discussing with friends recently.
    If a pitcher enters the game but it's not a save situation, can he "pitch" himself into a save situation? I say no.
    Example: Player comes in to start the ninth, team leading 6-3. Not a save situation, since the tying run is not in the on-deck circle. However, he proceeds to walk the leadoff man, bringing the tying run on deck; or, worse, he allows a couple runs, but gets the third out and his team wins, 6-5. Does he get a save under those last two scenarios?
  2. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    He cannot.

    However, the situation you cite is a save situation to begin with. Starting an inning w/a three-run lead = save situation.
  3. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    If he comes in the top of the ninth leading 6-2 and gives up five runs but his team scores a pair in the bottom of the ninth, does he get the W?
  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Yes. If he finished the top of the 9th he is the pitcher of record when the winning run scored.
  5. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    I just think it's funny that you don't get a save but if you screw up bad enough you can get a win.
  6. forever_town

    forever_town Well-Known Member

    A pitcher can't pitch himself into a save situation, but he can turn a game into a save situation for another pitcher.

    For instance: The Skankees lead the Nationals 13-1 in the bottom of the ninth at Nationals Park. The New Yorkers bring in Joba Chamberlain to give him some mopup duties. He gives up 10 runs including a Ryan Zimmerman grand slam. Even if he strikes out Ronnie Belliard to end the game after throwing 58 pitches in the frame, he doesn't get a save.

    However, if Joe Girardi brings in Mariano Rivera after the Zimmerman slam with the score 13-11 Skankees and Rivera shuts the door, it's a save.
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