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Klitschko vs. Haye, anybody into this HWT title fight?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mrbio, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    Having heard this, Mr. Enberg would pause briefly in a moment of deep personal reflection, gently let go your lapels, then bust a table lamp over your head and choke you out.
     
  2. mrbio

    mrbio Member

    Who could beat Lewis? Lewis was bigger, stronger and smarter than Ali. Lewis was so good he never took a beating and left the game as a winner. In the end, Lewis beat the game, the game didn't beat him like it did Ali, Louis, Tyson, Holmes. Lewis just too smart and too talented to ever take a bad beating. And all the best of his era ducked him for years (Bowe, Holyfield and Tyson w/King).

    Azrael, I'd tie you and Enberg into a pretzel in 20 seconds, ya got that.
     
  3. typefitter

    typefitter Well-Known Member

    That's exactly the fight I was thinking, too. Same kind of mismatch billed as the fight of the decade. I covered that fight. It was like watching a video game. Lewis could have done the full windmill and still landed right on the top of Grant's head.

    Comparing this fight to Ali-Frazier might be the dumbest thing ever written on this board.

    And I spent years covering Lewis, who was a very good fighter, but wasn't anything like the top three.

    Talk about false hype, mrbio. That's the shit that killed this sport in the first place.
     
  4. mrbio

    mrbio Member

     
  5. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

  6. mrbio

    mrbio Member

    You take a fighter at his best, not his worst night. Plenty of all time great fighters suffered bad losses early in career against underrated opponents - Louis, Jack Johnson, Monzon, Sanchez, Klitschko - but like the great sprinter Maurice Greene recently said, ”The heart of a champion is never how you win, it’s how you come back from a loss.”

    Lewis, after losing, learned and strengthened and became one of the greatest of the greats.

    Roger Federer and Ivan Lendl and Martina Navratilova were all known as underachieving chokers. Look what they became after learning from and overcoming their weaknesses. Or is this over your head?
     
  7. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Um, HBO is not free.
     
  8. dreunc1542

    dreunc1542 Active Member

    Being condescending while also not seemingly being capable of intelligent insight = a really bad combination.
     
  9. Huggy

    Huggy Well-Known Member

    Yawn, two more guys who don't like each other. Oh, this a real grudge match. Christ, promoters have been flogging that shit since Cain squared off against Abel. I would think a "veteran" observer of the sweet science would be able to see through that shit.

    I will not comment on the absurd comparison to Ali-Frazier or of either of these jokers to the heavyweight greats of the past.

    As for Lewis, I followed his career very closely as he occasionally trained at the same gym I belonged to beginning in his amateur days. Certainly as impressive a physical specimen as I ever saw among the heavyweights but to put him in the top three is absurd. As has been noted, he was KO'd by Oliver McCall, not in an early bout, but in a fight - in England - for the fucking title. He was also KO'd by Hasim Rahman, another guy who hardly distinguished himself as a champion.

    Lewis put together an impressive record but much of it is loaded up with the dregs of a bad heavyweight era. Yeah, he beat those guys but I don't know how great he looked in doing it. To me, his most impressive win was probably against Ruddock, a guy I thought had a legitimate chance of beating him. Not many heavys wanted to tangle with Razor in those days.
     
  10. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I don't care, beats the hell out of the weekly MMA crap.

    The "caretakers" of boxing should be so embarrassed that they've let something just west of pro wrestling make serious inroads on them.
     
  11. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    For those of you not familiar with the sport, this is going to be like Yankees-Red Sox [/bill simmons]
     
  12. rmanfredi

    rmanfredi Active Member

    Top three greatest what? British-Canadian heavyweight fighters?
     
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