KC Star fires metro columnist for plagiarism

Mizzougrad96 · Jul 14, 2011

I liked the lede...

Outlined against a blue-gray July sky the Kansas City Royals rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. These are only aliases.

Ben_Hecht · Jul 14, 2011

Glenn Stout said:

Over at Alex Belth's BronxBanter, John Schulian has been presenting an extended memoir of his career. From the latest installment, http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/07/13/from-ali-to-xena-18/, he writes this about columnists while discussing his time at the Chicago Daily News:

"It’s a tough call–maybe an impossible call- to say who was the best of those giants from 20 and 30 years ago. They all had days when they stood atop the world. Royko and Breslin defined the cities they worked in for the rest of the country. Hamill wrote with the eye of the novelist and memoirist he became. Dexter was the most unique; he went way beyond the Philadelphia city limits to the borders of his imagination. Of course he didn’t do it anywhere as near as long as the others. Hamill kept taking side trips, too–to screenwriting, novels, editing–but I never lost the sense of him as a committed newspaperman. Still, it was Royko and Breslin who seemed to capture the most imaginations. For pure writing I’d give the nod to Breslin. But for knowing how to work a column, whether he was raising hell with the first Mayor Daley or making you laugh with his alter ego, Slats Grobnik, or breaking your heart, Royko couldn’t be beat.

And he did it five days a week. Tell that to these limp-dick editors who think a columnist should only write twice a week. Royko didn’t have the privacy of an office at the Daily News, either. He just moved filing cabinets around until they formed a wall around his corner desk. And he’d be at that desk from morning until late at night."
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Almost all true (though I'll quibble with the order of the final Royko/Breslin call) . . . I spent a good deal of time in the old Sun-Times/Daily News building on the river, on Royko's floor . . . and he DID have a glassed-in corner office . . . the door was typically open, but not always . . .

Just FYI.

. . . tryin' to remember when John left. I may well have spent much of my time there after he did . . .

HanSenSE · Jul 14, 2011

Ben_Hecht said:

Glenn Stout said:

Over at Alex Belth's BronxBanter, John Schulian has been presenting an extended memoir of his career. From the latest installment, http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/07/13/from-ali-to-xena-18/, he writes this about columnists while discussing his time at the Chicago Daily News:

"It’s a tough call–maybe an impossible call- to say who was the best of those giants from 20 and 30 years ago. They all had days when they stood atop the world. Royko and Breslin defined the cities they worked in for the rest of the country. Hamill wrote with the eye of the novelist and memoirist he became. Dexter was the most unique; he went way beyond the Philadelphia city limits to the borders of his imagination. Of course he didn’t do it anywhere as near as long as the others. Hamill kept taking side trips, too–to screenwriting, novels, editing–but I never lost the sense of him as a committed newspaperman. Still, it was Royko and Breslin who seemed to capture the most imaginations. For pure writing I’d give the nod to Breslin. But for knowing how to work a column, whether he was raising hell with the first Mayor Daley or making you laugh with his alter ego, Slats Grobnik, or breaking your heart, Royko couldn’t be beat.

And he did it five days a week. Tell that to these limp-dick editors who think a columnist should only write twice a week. Royko didn’t have the privacy of an office at the Daily News, either. He just moved filing cabinets around until they formed a wall around his corner desk. And he’d be at that desk from morning until late at night."
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Almost all true (though I'll quibble with the order of the final Royko/Breslin call) . . . I spent a good deal of time in the old Sun-Times/Daily News building on the river, on Royko's floor . . . and he DID have a glassed-in corner office . . . the door was typically open, but not always . . .

Just FYI.

. . . tryin' to remember when John left. I may well have spent much of my time there after he did . . .
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Any list of city columnist is incomplete without Herb Caen in San Francisco ... just sayin'.

SF_Express · Jul 14, 2011

Ben_Hecht said:

. . . tryin' to remember when John left. I may well have spent much of my time there after he did . . .
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Schulian went Chicago to Philly, right? Not the other way around?

Boy, that Daily News writing staff had some stars on it for a while. Schulian, Didinger, Whicker and ... ? Sorry, fourth name escapes me.

I remember the day Leonard Tose did something bad, and all four wrote. There were your Four Horsemen.

Or am I misremembering the whole thing?

Ben_Hecht · Jul 14, 2011

HanSenSE said:

Ben_Hecht said:

Glenn Stout said:

Over at Alex Belth's BronxBanter, John Schulian has been presenting an extended memoir of his career. From the latest installment, http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/07/13/from-ali-to-xena-18/, he writes this about columnists while discussing his time at the Chicago Daily News:

"It’s a tough call–maybe an impossible call- to say who was the best of those giants from 20 and 30 years ago. They all had days when they stood atop the world. Royko and Breslin defined the cities they worked in for the rest of the country. Hamill wrote with the eye of the novelist and memoirist he became. Dexter was the most unique; he went way beyond the Philadelphia city limits to the borders of his imagination. Of course he didn’t do it anywhere as near as long as the others. Hamill kept taking side trips, too–to screenwriting, novels, editing–but I never lost the sense of him as a committed newspaperman. Still, it was Royko and Breslin who seemed to capture the most imaginations. For pure writing I’d give the nod to Breslin. But for knowing how to work a column, whether he was raising hell with the first Mayor Daley or making you laugh with his alter ego, Slats Grobnik, or breaking your heart, Royko couldn’t be beat.

And he did it five days a week. Tell that to these limp-dick editors who think a columnist should only write twice a week. Royko didn’t have the privacy of an office at the Daily News, either. He just moved filing cabinets around until they formed a wall around his corner desk. And he’d be at that desk from morning until late at night."
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Almost all true (though I'll quibble with the order of the final Royko/Breslin call) . . . I spent a good deal of time in the old Sun-Times/Daily News building on the river, on Royko's floor . . . and he DID have a glassed-in corner office . . . the door was typically open, but not always . . .

Just FYI.

. . . tryin' to remember when John left. I may well have spent much of my time there after he did . . .
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Any list of city columnist is incomplete without Herb Caen in San Francisco ... just sayin'.
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No disagreement whatsoever.

Ben_Hecht · Jul 14, 2011

SF_Express said:

Ben_Hecht said:

. . . tryin' to remember when John left. I may well have spent much of my time there after he did . . .
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Schulian went Chicago to Philly, right? Not the other way around?

Boy, that Daily News writing staff had some stars on it for a while. Schulian, Didinger, Whicker and ... ? Sorry, fourth name escapes me.

I remember the day Leonard Tose did something bad, and all four wrote. There were your Four Horsemen.

Or am I misremembering the whole thing?
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He went to the Philly Daily News from Chicago, absolutely.

He was and is a talent, but that final marriage of a personal newspaper career and a town didn't take.

But then he hit the Mother Lode.

It's all out well enough for him, though . . . for certain.

Ace · Jul 14, 2011

If making up stuff is your thing, a Metro columnist gig is the perfect spot for you.

Reuben Frank · Jul 14, 2011

SF_Express said:

Boy, that Daily News writing staff had some stars on it for a while. Schulian, Didinger, Whicker and ... ? Sorry, fourth name escapes me.
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Stan Hochman

SF_Express · Jul 14, 2011

Reuben Frank said:

SF_Express said:

Boy, that Daily News writing staff had some stars on it for a while. Schulian, Didinger, Whicker and ... ? Sorry, fourth name escapes me.
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Stan Hochman
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Indeed, thank you. Sorry, Stan.

BillyT · Jul 14, 2011

What? No Mike Barnicle?

Smasher_Sloan · Jul 15, 2011

Can somebody get me on the release list for the funeral homes? I promise to attribute whatever I use.

Baron Scicluna · Jul 15, 2011

Mizzougrad96 said:

I liked the lede...

Outlined against a blue-gray July sky the Kansas City Royals rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. These are only aliases.
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The million-to-one shot came in. Hell froze over. A month of Sundays hit the calendar. The Kansas City Royals actually won a game.

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