Kansas AD meets with football team about Mark Mangino

KU lands leftovers in Big 12 country too. That's why they're usually 8-4 at best.

Anybody who thinks a coach coming from a Mountain West/WAC/CUSA school can replicate his success at a Big 12 school with the same caliber of player he's bringing to his current program is kidding themselves.

If you need proof, take a look at what's going on in Boulder.

 

Mason of course went to Minnesota and spent his entire tenure there alternately pissing and moaning about facilities, fan support, and every other thing under the sun, and threatening to jump to other jobs -- several in the same conference -- before the Gopher brass got fed up with it and told him to hit the bricks.

 

Of course what was never talked about regarding his pissing and moaning was the fact he was right. The Dome sucked for college football and even with a new stadium fans can't be bothered to fill the place for Big 10 games.

 

The weight may or may not affect his mood. But young, old, fat, thin... if all you do is yell, scream and berate, all the time... it wont' take long for you to be tuned out.

 

Hawkins left his football brain in Boise, that's the problem at CU.

 

I thought it was a great column by Whitlock.

 

Difference would be Patterson is a much better head coach than Mangino. They might recruit the same leftovers, but Patterson would do more and win more consistently with them, I have no doubt about that. He wouldn't turn into Mack Brown or Bob Stoops, but he would be an improvement from Mangino.

 

And you're basing this on what exactly?

 

An obese head coach is in trouble for losing five in a row, poking his finger in a player's chest and yelling.

 

And you're basing your opinion on what exactly?

 

I seriously doubt KU would fire Mangino for a 5-7 season, which was considered pretty good at KU until Mangino came around. Like someone else already posted, the forward pass was a novelty the last time Kansas had a coach win as much as Mangino.

But his temper has been an issue before. I think a player that goes running to the AD because the coach poked him in the chest needs to grow a pair, but I'm wondering if there isn't a lot more to this.

As for Patterson and KU, this team he has at TCU this year would probably be the second best team in the Big 12. Hell, they may be better than Texas, but we'll never know. He should be able to recruit the same kind of players to Kansas and if he did he might be in the hunt for the national championship, which he won't win at TCU.

If KU does fire Mangino it is in a much better position to hire a coach then it was when they hired the big man. Back then KU had no AD, no recent football success, no facilities, no money and and maybe two or three legit Big 12-caliber players on the roster.

All of those things have changed.

 

I don't know if Glen Mason gets the credit he deserves with all the talk about KU never winning games. The guy did have a 10-win season and a No. 7 AP ranking to finish the 1995 season. KU hadn't had a winning record since 1981 and had gone 1-9-1 in 1987, the season before Mason got hired. The Jayhawks went 1-10 in 1988 and he steadily built that program up. Mangino didn't have near the rebuilding job Mason did.