John Hart -- worst trader ever?

outofplace · Aug 18, 2006

Lieutenant Gareth Keenan said:

outofplace said:

I know the point was made that some of these were salary dumps, but at least get SOMETHING.

Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton for Jose Hernandez, Bobby Hill and some crappy pitcher whose name I forget. Hernandez was let go in the offseason. So was the minor-league pitcher. Hill was having back problems and he had already failed repeatedly to win a job with the Cubs.

Littlefield had one good trade. Brian Giles for Jason Bay and Oliver Perez. Ok, it was a great trade even though Perez fell apart after one good year. But otherwise, he's been a disaster.
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Hernandez left town and said crap pitcher (Matt Bruback) was lost on waivers, so the Pirates essentially traded Kenny Lofton and Aramis Ramirez for Bobby Hill. Nice. :
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Thanks. I think I was trying to block Bruback's name out.

Smasher_Sloan · Aug 18, 2006

outofplace said:

Armchair_QB said:

Lieutenant Gareth Keenan said:

"With where we're at right now, I'd have to respectfully disagree." -- David Littleyield

Here are the current Pirates' roster members acquired (via trade) by said GM:

Jose Hernandez (traded for in 2003, brought back as FA)
Shawn Chacon
Xavier Nady
Freddy Sanchez
Jason Bay
Damatso Marte

Players said GM traded who are currently playing -- several in significant roles -- elsewhere:

Aramis Ramirez
Oliver Perez
Roberto Hernandez
Chris Young
Brian Giles
Jason Kendall
Dave Williams
Jason Schmidt
Rob Mackowiak
Sean Casey
Leo Nunez
Kip Wells

I haven't even mentioned Duaner Sanchez, Bronson Arroyo, Chris Shelton, players he let go for nothing.

Not only is the guy still employed, he received a contract extension earlier in the year. :
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You forgot to Kenny Lofton on that last list.
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I know the point was made that some of these were salary dumps, but at least get SOMETHING.

Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton for Jose Hernandez, Bobby Hill and some crappy pitcher whose name I forget. Hernandez was let go in the offseason. So was the minor-league pitcher. Hill was having back problems and he had already failed repeatedly to win a job with the Cubs.

Littlefield had one good trade. Brian Giles for Jason Bay and Oliver Perez. Ok, it was a great trade even though Perez fell apart after one good year. But otherwise, he's been a disaster.
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When a team is taking on a big salary, THAT'S the price the pay in the deal. They take the contract off your hands. They're not going to give you $x million in payroll relief AND give you good players, too.

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