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Jeffrey Epstein, dead

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Michael_ Gee, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    All of that is true. It's also true that there's a huge difference between leaving a high-profile guy like Epstein alone, and taking a smoke break while some random gang member gets shivved in the shower.
     
  2. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    He had been taken off of suicide watch. No one was actively watching him more than anyone else in that area.

    I think that's what needs to be the immediate focus - who took him off the watch list, and why. In theory it had to be a mental health professional. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should have known that a 1,200 page document dump was not going to leave him in a good place mentally, assuming that it was actually a suicide.

    I doubt we'll ever really know what happened unless someone was particularly dumb or careless.
     
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  3. swingline

    swingline Well-Known Member

    I want to see a photo of his cell. If there's no way he could have affixed a bed sheet or whatever — ala Aaron Hernandez — then how the hell could he commit suicide?
     
  4. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    He wasn’t going to talk or make a deal. Trump’s US Attorney’s Office wasn’t going to make a deal to have Epstein cooperate. Not after the shitstorm clownshow in Florida. The guy offed himself. He was a rich degenerate and lots of middle aged rich and powerful men got laid by young teens because of him.
     
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  5. Twirling Time

    Twirling Time Well-Known Member

    I will add to that that the FBI has everything that Epstein had to offer in terms of incriminating evidence — phone and bank records, testimony from victims, the proverbial “ black book.” He added little to the case being alive. His case ends with his death, but the case against Trump, Dershowitz and Randy Andy proceeds apace.
     
  6. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

  7. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    So one reason Epstein may have found the space to hang himself is that MCC is severely understaffed and many guards working overtime. This is in part because Trump's administration has left 6000 correctional officer jobs unfilled. And they say Trump has no long-range planning! More seriously, overworked employees in fear of losing their jobs make dandy bribery targets.
     
  8. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    "Jeffrey Epstein's cell was not regularly monitored the night he is believed to have killed himself, a source with knowledge of the accused sex trafficker's time at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York said Sunday.

    Epstein, 66, was in the special housing unit in a cell by himself when he was found dead early Saturday. He initially had a cellmate, but that person was removed for reasons unknown, the source said.

    It's protocol for inmates coming off suicide watch not to be placed alone in a cell, according to the source."

    "The two guards that were at the Special Housing Unit were both on overtime, according to the source. One was working a mandatory overtime shift. The other was working his fifth overtime shift of the week."




    Jeffrey Epstein's cell was not monitored night of apparent suicide, source says - CNN
     
  9. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    How conveeenient.
     
  10. Neutral Corner

    Neutral Corner Well-Known Member

    I can't help flashing back to "The Godfather", when the police guards were called off of guarding the Don's hospital room.
     
  11. hondo

    hondo Well-Known Member

    Let's assume that either the Clintons or Trump would want Epstein dead.
    Wouldn't they have him whacked in a way that didn't look like total amateur hour, or with such bad timing?
    Apparently, it was next to impossible for him to hang himself in that cell. https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-epstein-killed-himself/

    There was seemingly nothing on which to hang a rope, sheet or belt. He couldn't wrap it around his neck because of the garment he had to wear. Why would anyone in a position to have this guy shanked in prison try to fake a suicide in a situation where he obviously couldn't have killed himself?

    If he was killed by one of the obvious suspects, they're much dumber than anyone thinks (coughTrumpcough)
     
  12. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    Trump would have told Enzo the baker to go back to where he came from.
     
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