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Jason Whitlock's column. Anyone else disagree?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by SkiptomyLou, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    And it wasn't over when they bombed Pearl Harbor, either.
     
  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

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  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    A certain Friday night took all the magic and mystery out of your mom.
     
  4. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    I appreciate stats. I don't worship them. I've never thought of them as essential to enjoying a game. If you do, great.

    But I've never heard someone come back from a game and excitedly break down complex stats for me. They tell a story about what they saw. That was my point. Maybe I should have made it with numbers and charts and percentages.
     
  5. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    Scoop Jackson removed the magic and mystery from bojangling.
     
  6. Johnny Dangerously

    Johnny Dangerously Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    Webster defines magic.
     
  7. 21

    21 Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    Pretty sure this is the wrong spelling, but in the right context would make a terrific porn title.

    Carry on.
     
  8. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    You never worked with me. Lucky you!
     
  9. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    Here is a short excerpt from this week's Sports Illustrated about the information that the Red Sox collect on players. It is instructive because it shows that, although stats are a big part of what they do, they certainly supplement it and cross-check it:

    Carmine also guards less quantifiable data, including the first report filed on Ellsbury in 2003, two years before he was drafted, as well as eight follow-up reports chock-full of anecdotes culled from interviews with his coaches, trainers, college SID, opposing coaches, summer league coach and others. There is a story about a foot injury "no one knew about" that explained a brief slump in the Cape Cod League in '04. There is the story of the day in '05 when two cross-checkers worked out Ellsbury in a San Diego gym because of rain: The 21-year-old picked up a stray basketball and threw down a monster dunk, confirming their reports on his athleticism. All those notations-which a decade ago would have consumed just two or three sentences under "makeup" in most teams' player files-are separate from the actual nuts-and-bolts scouting report on his skills.

    I don't understand why the Jason Whitlocks of the world want there to be less information, particularly when this is what the teams are doing?
     
  10. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    I understood just fine what you really meant, and I understand the backpedaling. Own your rhetoric.
     
  11. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    If you really think that I think that, in terms of social value, the polio vaccine and sabermetrics are equal, then you are a big enormous idiot.

    The point - which you absolutely know - is that it doesn't drain the "magic" from a field to understand it more. That's an asinine assertion by Whitlock.
     
  12. dooley_womack1

    dooley_womack1 Well-Known Member

    Re: Jason Whitlock is dumb

    Sabermetrics is nowhere near a beacon of understanding and help the way the polio vaccine and the lightbulb are. I don't think, in fact, that sabermetrics is any kind of magic.
     
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