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Jase unloads on Andy Reid

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by hondo, Nov 9, 2007.

  1. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    The Dungy situation and the Reid situation are not really that comparable for reasons that have been mentioned -- and ignored by those who don't like Whitlock -- numerous times on this and other threads about the situation.

    That being said, some of the most fucked up, selfish, degenerate, dipshit, wannabe gangster assholes I know came from homes where they had attentive, loving, strict parents and the Beaver Cleaver existence.

    Yes, parenting is very important and parents should be held accountable for their kid's actions -- but every bad kid and/or bad adult is not the product of bad parents or bad parenting.

    And the only people who try to make the case that they are likely don't have kids.
     
  2. Wow. Suddenly you sound like every athlete who's ever dismissed a sports writer by claiming he "never played the game."
     
  3. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member


    You can go ahead and argue it all day (without me . . . ), but women hold the trump card in this debate, and virtually all male-originated arguments don't hold water.
     
  4. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    And, in many cases, those aspersions are warranted.
     
  5. BillyT

    BillyT Active Member

    Karen Crouse did a nice job on a Reid story in the New York Times this morning.
     
  6. jgmacg

    jgmacg Guest


    A little more nuance than Mr. Whitlock. And a lot more reporting.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/sports/football/11reid.html?adxnnl=1&ref=sports&adxnnlx=1194786078-WW4zvmr/hRz1I31DvK5pYw
     
  7. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    You mean the Reids aren't a nice Mormon family? ;D
     
  8. Almost_Famous

    Almost_Famous Active Member

    I'm going to guess that question never gets answered.
     
  9. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    The most impressive thing about this column is that Whitlock managed to get through the whole thing without once referring the "hip hop and prison culture"

    I wasn't sure that was possible.
     
  10. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    But Whitlock wrote an opinion column and Times story was a feature and really one that provides little new insight.

    No one has yet to define what the Judge really meant by "drug emporium" and no one has even come close to hitting on most interesting part of story - how did 2 kids from a strict Mormon household get so far off the tracks.
     
  11. CatchMeUp

    CatchMeUp Member

    Boom, you are assuming a fact not in evidence. "Strict Mormon household" is a cliche. We don't know it was a strict household. We don't know if they even practice their religion.
     
  12. Herbert Anchovy

    Herbert Anchovy Active Member

    So Jason is now Dr. Spock. I thought he was supposed to be some sort of half-ass anthropologist.

    I have to believe that if these "kids" (vocationally unemployed and living at home in their mid-20s) either chose or were allowed to forego the LDS mission that the vast majority of 19-year-old Mormon males are persuaded, nay --obligated -- to take, then the religion wasn't taken very seriously in the family.

    Inside the NFL and other purveyors of tripe have before projected an image of the Reids as a tightly-knit family.

    I've done some shit in this world I ain't proud of, but when you do what these guys did, refer to Dad as "the Eagles coach" and then further humiliate everyone involved by packing 90 pills up your rectum, then you've been failed by. There's not much other explanation.
     
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