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Jamie Moyer, HOFer?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Drip, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    Interesting read and argument by Bill Conlin of the Philadelphia Daily News.
  2. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

  3. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    What he said.
  4. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    33 wins are a lot to ask from someone his age. I say no way does he get there, to 300 or to Cooperstown.

    Interesting argument from one of the writers who didn't vote for Nolan Ryan.
  5. Liut

    Liut Well-Known Member

  6. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    They have a great sporcle quiz of Hall of Famers who Moyer has faced. It's pretty amazing.
  7. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    My first reaction was 'no' too, but what if he really can rubber-arm it for two more seasons and retire after 2012 with 300 wins?
  8. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    I put Moyer in the same boat as Jim Kaat, pitchers who lasted long on the MLB level because they were left-handed, lucky, healthy, and had a little talent.
  9. copperpot

    copperpot Well-Known Member

    Conlin builds that whole column around Moyer's win total. What are Moyer's other career numbers? His ERA is 4.22 -- definitely pedestrian. Ryan's, by contrast, was 3.19.

    I'm certainly with those saying F no.
  10. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    If he gets to 300, he'd have to get 15 wins at least this season (possible) and then have two more solid seasons (a little less possible).
  11. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Then he should be the first guy with 300 wins to be left out, IMO. It would be a remarkable achievement, but Moyer has never been dominant or one of the best pitchers in baseball. Slogging through 25+ seasons, averaging 11 or 12 wins a season, with a 4 + ERA makes you a study in longevity, but the HOF is for the best players. Was Moyer ever even a number 1 starter on his own staff? Even in his best years in Seattle, Freddie Garcia was considered the ace.
  12. CR19

    CR19 Member

    If he makes 300 wins, he should go in the Hall. If he doesn't, no way.

    Unfortunately, age doesn't equal success.
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