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Israel v. Gaza, again

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Songbird, Jul 8, 2014.

  1. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Jesus Christ.

    What rights to Arabs living in Israel not enjoy?

    And, Israel has offered a two state solution. The Palestinians turned the deal down.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Not to mention look at the "2-state" harmony in effect at the West Bank SodaStream plant.

    And ...

    http://www.ibtimes.com/sodastream-boycott-west-bank-factory-palestinian-workers-reveal-what-they-think-about-their-employer
     
  3. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    The BDS crew keep saying, in effect, Who cares if they're all happy there because an Israeli owns a huge business on settlement land, and it's prime real estate that Palestinians should own so they can open Palestinian businesses that hire Palestinians!

    Nothing will be good enough.
     
  4. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Rights that the Arabs in the occupied territories do not enjoy:
    - The right to vote
    - Freedom to come and go as they please
    - Property ownership without the threat of arbitrary destruction
    - Access to religious sites for worship
    - Legitimate justice for civilians who are murdered
    - Quick and fair punishment without indefinite detention or torture
     
  5. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Let's get nukey!

    http://rt.com/news/171760-hamas-dimona-nuclear-rocket/
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Occupied territories. Good God.

    Tell me, do Arabs living in Israel have greater or fewer rights than Jews and/or Christians living in Muslim nations?
     
  7. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    So, because it might be worse in other places it's OK in Gaza and the West Bank? I don't follow your reasoning.
     
  8. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Might be worse?

    I never hear the term apartheid applied to Muslim nations. We have prestigious universities opening branches in Muslim nations, that do not have religious tolerance. Yet, the BDS crowd focuses on Israel, the one democracy in the region; the one place where all citizens have rights.

    To refer to occupied land -- and especially to include Gaze as a part of it -- or to apartheid is ridiculous. You are aiding and abetting the people who want to wipe Israel off the map.
     
  9. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    "Good God"? You're the one who's out of step with the international community regarding the nomenclature there, not me.
     
  10. SnarkShark

    SnarkShark Well-Known Member

    You're sidestepping the question.

    What does how Muslims treat other religions in other countries have to do with how Israel treats Muslims in Gaza and the West Bank? Both can be wrong, even in different degrees. It's not one or the other, depending on which is worse. Just because it may be less bad, doesn't mean it should be tolerated.
     
  11. Paynendearse

    Paynendearse Member

    Yeah, well, heh. Talk to Muslims about tolerance. See how that goes.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Sidestepping nothing.

    Israel doesn't just treat Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians better than Jews and Christians are treated in Muslim countries, they treat Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians better than they are treated in Muslim countries -- especially the Palestinians.

    To call it apartheid is a joke. It mocks the horror that was the ruling system in South Africa.

    I'm also not sure why you keep mentioning Gaza, which is not occupied, by any definition, by Israel. Gaza is controlled by Hamas, and it is a failed state.
     
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