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Is Gary Sheffield a Hall of Famer?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mizzougrad96, Feb 17, 2011.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    1) Juiced. If that is still a disqualifier for voters, nope, not a Hall of Famer.

    2) Anyone arguing that Sheffield belongs, will have to agree Jim Thome does. I want to see that.

    3) Come to think of it, if Sheffield belongs, then Fred McGriff does also.

    4) Very importantly to me: The guy admitted purposely making errors in the 90s, because he didn't want to play in Milwaukee. I know there is already precedent for letting guys like that in (see Henderson, Rickey), but Sheffield doesn't have the same kind of talent.

    EDIT: I should have added that when he actually wanted to play and was trying and not being a pain in the ass to everyone around him, I loved the way Sheffield hit. His swing was controlled violence and he hit the ball harder than anyone I can remember in my lifetime. Still not a Hall of Famer in my estimation.
     
    The Big Ragu, Feb 17, 2011
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  2. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    I think it should be pretty clear that on career resume, Thome > Sheffield > McGriff. They are all similar players, but the demarcation looks pretty obvious to me.

    I'd probably draw the HOF line between Thome and Sheffield, though.
     
    RickStain, Feb 17, 2011
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  3. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    I agree.
     
    BB Bobcat, Feb 17, 2011
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  4. Hank_Scorpio

    Hank_Scorpio Active Member

    I think some would argue that Thome is a Hall of Famer.

    I don't think many people would argue in favor of Sheffield.
     
    Hank_Scorpio, Feb 17, 2011
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  5. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I agree that Thome makes it in and Sheffield does not.
     
    Mizzougrad96, Feb 17, 2011
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  6. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    Mizzou is right, and Sheffield will be screeching about racism after Thome glides in, but neither should be in.
     
    BYH, Feb 17, 2011
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  7. Trey Beamon

    Trey Beamon Active Member

    Yes, he's an asshole.

    I don't think I understand the rules.
     
    Trey Beamon, Feb 17, 2011
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  8. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I think Sheffield gets the Albert Belle treatment (last guy to have 50 hrs and 50 2bs in a season).
     
    qtlaw, Feb 17, 2011
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  9. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    this.

    man, was he fun to watch as a hitter. incredible bat speed. despite violence he unleashed with every swing he also made extraordinary contact for a power man.

    not an hof'er. but at the top of the list of near-misses.

    full disclosure: i covered sheffield in the 1980 LL world series when he was 11. that team was so crazy-loaded sheffield wasn't among their top 5 hitters. i believe that tampa team returned to the LL world series the following year, with sheffield as its superstar. i could be wrong but he may have been the first -- and perhaps remains the only-- kid to play in consecutive LL world series.
     
    shockey, Feb 17, 2011
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  10. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Didn't Sean Burroughs go back-to-back in the mid 90s?
     
    Della9250, Feb 17, 2011
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  11. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I remember those teams. Back then, crazy to think they qualified in consecutive years (single elimination tournament).

    What sticks in my mind is that Sheffield had a couple of great years with the Brewers, Padres and Marlins, yet when the Marlins won it, Sheffield was on a down year and they won in spite of him. He somehow (HGH??) became more consistent with the Braves/Yankees years. Had he put that consistency early on, then yes. But in the end, IMHO no.
     
    qtlaw, Feb 17, 2011
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  12. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    I think if you put another name with his career numbers, he'd have a great shot at getting in. He had a HOF career. Alas, too much baggage.
     
    novelist_wannabe, Feb 17, 2011
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