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Is 10 points a rout?

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by sportschick, Feb 24, 2007.

  1. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

    If you're up by 20 or more late in the game and the other team makes it close in the end, then it qualifies as a rout.
     
  2. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    I tend to agree, but I wouldn't use "rout" next to a non-rout final score, even if the closeness is misleading. Looks odd.
     
  3. Dale Cooper

    Dale Cooper Member

    It totally depends on context. Final scores in any sport can be misleading and particularly in basketball. It's not uncommon for a game to be close most of the way, then a team gets a small lead with a few minutes left, losing team starts fouling, winning team makes its free throws, losing team misses its 3s, and you have a 10-15 point loss. It certainly does not become a rout if it hits 15 in that case.

    Rout is probably the wrong word in this case, because it leads to confusion. But it does provide context for the 10-point win, especially in a brief capsule where there isn't much space to explain.
     
  4. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    So consider this situation:

    http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2006/B05200MIL2006.htm

    May 20, 2006. Twins are beating the Brewers 13-4 entering the bottom of the eighth. I feel safe in assuming that everyone would call this one a rout, as is. Milwaukee scores three in the eighth, Twins get one back in the ninth and Milwaukee scores three more in the bottom half. Final score: Twins 16, Brewers 10.

    The score doesn't make it look like too much of a rout, at first glance. But anyone who was at Miller Park that night knows the Twins won going away, and the Brewers -- despite scoring three in the ninth -- never had a chance to win.

    I think this is similar to the original situation in this thread. The losing team was down so far that it never really had a chance to win -- I think that's the criteria for a "rout."
     
  5. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    How about this? Is this a rout?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2001/08/06/indians_comeback_ap/

    :D :D

    How do you get a retrosheet URK, BTW? The URL stays at retrosheet.org no matter how many different pages I visit there.
     
  6. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    You on a PC? You have to go to a page that has the link on it -- not the page itself -- and right-click "copy link location." Then you can paste it here.

    Say, for instance, that you're on the 1986 Mets team page (<a href="http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1986/TNYN01986.htm"</a>here</a>) and you want to post a link on SJ to a certain extra-inning game of a certain postseason series.

    So you go to that page (http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1986/VNYN31986.htm) and it brings up this screen here:

    If you click on the link to Game 6, the URL stays at "www.retrosheet.org."

    So instead of clicking on the link, you right-click where it says "BOX+PBP" and then click on "copy link location." And then you can paste that link here, like so: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1986/B10270NYN1986.htm.

    And there you go.
     
  7. ScooterP

    ScooterP New Member

    30 or more. Period. Anything less is a just a good game where a team was defeated deftly.
     
  8. Diego Marquez

    Diego Marquez Member

    That's four field goals (with threes), which can be done in 30 seconds. Four goals in hockey or four touchdowns in football -- a rout. Four runs in baseball is one swing of the bat (not a rout). Basketball needs more than a couple of hoops. Just like bowling, 10 points is not a rout.
     
  9. mannheimadler

    mannheimadler Member

    10 points is not a rout in most basketball games (although with some colleges and high schools, the way they slow the ball and play defense, a 10-point game really feels like 20).

    But in most situations, I would wait for a 15-20 point final score before calling it a rout.
     
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