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Indefensible.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by hockeybeat, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. andyouare?

    andyouare? Guest

    Ha, ha, ha. Your ignorance is laughable.

    The Frost kid is only attending the private school because he's on scholarship. Or did Rush not tell you that part of the story this afternoon.
     
  2. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    I've got to head out and do something productive (trying to educate the uneducatable doesn't qualify) for a while. But I implore just one of you to come up with an argument based on something other than emotion or insults.
     
  3. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member


    I truly wish that people would just ignore old_tony and stop try to provide him with information. He is clearly blissfully ignorant.

    Don't spoil it.
     
  4. andyouare?

    andyouare? Guest

    I love children, you moron!
     
  5. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    And with Tobacco company executives playing the part of the holocaust victims jews. That's one of the most twisted analogies I've ever seen. Yes, a plan to provide healthcare for children who have none with a tax imposed upon cigarrette companies is obviously the first step on the road to holocaust.
     
  6. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    Wow, your ability to miss important parts of discussions is unbelievable. I know the kid is on a giveaway. That's not the point. The point is it wouldn't have cost him any more to go to the public school, but his family chose to avoid that at all costs.

    Public schools, by the way, are an example of what we don't want.

    So it's amazing that you guys want to make health care just like them.
     
  7. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Well then your argument is like saying you don't eat apples because Reeces Pieces give you tummy aches. It makes no fucking sense. You lambast that family for benefitting from SCHIP by bringing up private schools they attend at next to no cost. Because they benefit from one program that a number of Democrats (and also Republicans) back, they're supposed to be supportive of ALL Democratic programs? Even though they live in a Republican area, right down the street from where former Gove. Bob Ehrlich grew up? You're arguing is completely devoid of facts and supported strictly by the ideological talking points that have been shot down.

    As for going after smokers, wow, you're really comparing them to the Jews and the Holocaust? The same smokers who, were they to clean up their act, would no longer drain the health system to the tune of millions and millions of dollars in care that you and I end up paying for, that would be absolutely unnecessary had they not taken up smoking to begin with?
     
  8. JR

    JR Well-Known Member

    And Tony's theme song;

     
  9. Beaker

    Beaker Active Member

    We don't want public schools? Wow. Kind of validates my earlier post, doesn't it?
     
  10. MCbamr

    MCbamr Member

    "New York State is filing a lawsuit challenging the Administration's disapproval of its request to allow SCHIP to cover children in some families making as much as $83,000 per year. "Gov. Eliot Spitzer said yesterday that New York , joined by six other states, would file suit against the Bush administration, challenging stricter eligibility rules for the government health insurance program that covers poor children. … In their legal challenges, the eight states contend that the new eligibility rules, which went into effect in August and limit coverage to children living at or below 250 percent of the poverty level, will either force out children in the program or leave tens of thousands without coverage who would be eligible. … Three weeks ago the federal health officials denied a request by New York to insure more children by covering those in families with incomes up to 400 percent of the poverty rate, or $82,600 for a family of four." (Sarah Kershaw, "8 States Plan To Press Bush On Health Bill," The New York Times , 10/2/07 ) "

    The vetoed SCHIP bill also grandfathers in New Jersey 's program at 350 percent of the Federal poverty level, which includes children in families with incomes of $72,000 a year. "Corzine added that the state, which covers about 122,000 kids in its program, known as FamilyCare, 'will continue to provide health care to children in families with income up to 350 percent' of the federal poverty level – or $72,275 for a family of four. He also wrote that he is prepared to file a lawsuit challenging the new rules." (Christopher Lee, "N.J.'s Corzine To Defy New Health-Care Rules," The Washington Post , 9/14/07 )
     
  11. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Yep, that press release from the White House came across my wire too. It was nice of you to give the source.
     
  12. Smallpotatoes

    Smallpotatoes Well-Known Member

    Ragu, I understand it's a business and they have bills to pay and those bills can't get paid unless they get paid.
    What bothers me is that when I've received those calls, it has made me wonder if a call to discuss a life-threatening condition would be made with equal or greater urgency.
    I just don't care for the message it sends, that it sounds like they're placing money ahead of the patient's well-being.
     
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