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If we set the bar higher, we would be a failing school.

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Aug 3, 2015.

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  1. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    It's too bad those venture philanthropists stepped in and tried to do their thing. Before this whole charter schools mess appeared on the horizon, Newark schools had been going along just swimmingly.
     
    doctorquant, Aug 4, 2015
    #13
  2. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Translation: Divert tax dollars to their pockets.
     
    cranberry, Aug 4, 2015
    #14
  3. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Yeah ... It's a shame Zuckerberg couldn't leave well enough alone. The nerve of some people ... Gotta get in there and mess up a perfectly good setup that's working well for everyone.
     
    doctorquant, Aug 4, 2015
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  4. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Zuckerberg's donation was the very picture of sinking money into a pit of graft and corruption. Every flim-flam man in the entire chain of charter schools was in on that one.
     
    LongTimeListener, Aug 4, 2015
    #16
  5. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Yeah ... if he'd just given it to the folks who'd been in charge for decades, it would have gone much better.
     
    doctorquant, Aug 4, 2015
    #17
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  6. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    You are not typically one for mischaracterizing like that.
     
    LongTimeListener, Aug 4, 2015
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Interesting snark. ... in which you assume I was saying anything about the productivity of Newark's teachers.

    The back pay was $31 million (which Mark Zuckerberg paid for) for raises the teachers said they deserved, but had never gotten, and were a precondition for a new contract. In that regard, I guess back pay is a bit misleading. It's not pay they had agreed to previously.

    Also, I am amazed (well not really) how a few people have focused on this on "charter schools." Charter schools were never NEAR a reality in Newark. Sure, some amount in the millions of dollars were wasted by Zuckerberg's foundation on BS consultants who were like vultures when they smelled the money. It was indeed, corruption.

    But in the zeal to write a narrative, it's wild that that that is the focus for someone, when way more money simply went toward a teacher's contract that Newark could never have ponied up on its own -- the system is STILL tens of millions of dollars in the hole. Anyone simply following the money -- if they wanted to simplistically sum up that contribution in an overly simplistic way -- would say, "Zuckerberg put up the money with lofty goals, and in practice it went toward a new teacher's contract." I guess my question to cranberry would be is that how Chris Christie "wasted" Zuckerberg's money -- you know the teachers contract that MOST of the money went toward?
     
    The Big Ragu, Aug 4, 2015
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  8. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    The teachers got $48 million through a new contract negotiated with the AFT. It's the other $52 million that vanished into the pockets of the charter school consultants and other assorted leeches.
     
    cranberry, Aug 4, 2015
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  9. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    Sorry. Not really directed at you.
     
    doctorquant, Aug 4, 2015
    #21
  10. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    There were no leeches before Zuckerberg showed up with his millions. That's why that system worked so well for so long ...
     
    doctorquant, Aug 4, 2015
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  11. JohnHammond

    JohnHammond Well-Known Member

    The"compassionate" ones from the left who do everything they can to keep from associating with the poor seem to own the issue of how to improve education in inner cities.
     
    JohnHammond, Aug 4, 2015
    #23
  12. Ace

    Ace Well-Known Member

    Someone is associating with the poor. Maybe it's the righty 1 percenters on their days off.
     
    Ace, Aug 4, 2015
    #24
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