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If the Mets could ...

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Columbo, Jul 28, 2006.


... swap starting fives with the Marlins right now, just for this season, should they?

  1. Yes

    12 vote(s)
  2. No

    14 vote(s)
  1. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Depends if the players win arbitration cases...
  2. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

    Pelfrey and Maine could bail them out at the end.... we shall see.
  3. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    I have been more impressed with John Maine than I have with Mike Pelfrey. Pelfrey has shown the ability to work around a hit or two an inning. Maine's been lights out his last two starts, especially Wednesday against the Cubs.

    Wednesday, top of the sixth, one out. Runners on first and second, and the hottest friggin' hitter on the planet, Aramis Ramirez at bat. Maine struck Ramirez out with a high fastball and got the next hitter, Jaque Jones, to ground out to second.

    How many rookies do that? In a tie game?
  4. Columbo

    Columbo Active Member

  5. All I know is if that fucking idiot Duquette didn't deal Kazmir, we wouldn't be having this problem right now.
  6. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Duquette didn't trade Kazmir. Al Leiter, John Franco, Mike Piazza and Jeffy Wilpon did.
  7. Could you refresh my memory on those details?
  8. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    This one's looking rather silly at the moment.
  9. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    A couple years ago, at spring training...

    Kazmir came into the clubhouse and changed the music to heavy metal or rap. Franco and Leiter believe that players have to have a certain amount of authority before they can change music. They switched it back to whatever they were listening to. Rumor has it that Kazmir had words with the vets, who were aghast that a rookie could be so gosh dang cocky.

    At the trade deadline that year, the Mets were sort of in the race and needed a veteran pitcher. Franco, Leiter and Piazza (Piazza was tight with Leiter and Franco, so whatever they said was gospel) went to Jeffy Wilpon and said, "We gotta get another veteran arm. We gotta trade Kazmir" while Rick Peterson, the Mets pitching coach, famously remarked that he could fix Victor Zambrano's mechanics in "10 minutes." That was enough for Wilpon, who told Duquette to make the deal.
  10. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Coming into tonight's games, the Mets lead the Braves by 12 games. Clearly, they've done it with smoke and mirrors. ::)

    No one is arguing that the Mets don't need another starter. They do. But, other than Dontrelle Willis, name one Marlins starter the Mets should trade for.
  11. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    You are aware Nolasco took a no-hitter into the seventh tonight, aren't you?
  12. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Maybe they are better long term. Short term, this season, the Mets need pitchers who have playoff experience.
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