If it is good for America, why isn't it good for Congress and the president?

You like the masses just fine because they voted for Obama. You weren't too keen on them when they were voting for a Republican president.

 

It's not a question of changing their minds since the election. It's that this was a centerpiece of his election campaign, and now people are shocked by the fact that he has the temerity to try and accomplish it.

 

The sudden Republican respect for the alleged wishes of the majority is ... interesting. Weren't opinion polls meaningless, or at least nothing to base actual decisions on, when Chuckles had an approval rating hovering barely above the Mendoza line and when better than two-thirds of the population believed the Iraq war needed to end?

 

In November 2010, YGster, they can change their mind if they want. For now, they voted these people in, and those are the folks who decide. You may not like how a representative republic works, but that's how it works. Grownups don't govern by opinion polls (and the opinion polls on health care are mixed, and duh for that, given that the economy didn't recover overnight and all kinds of scare shit is being thrown by intellectual lemurs.

In elections, people can change course, and the party they vote for has every right to push their program through. If this is indeed a pushthrough, it's one that will save lives, not take them by the thousands, the way Bush's pushthrough did

 

Thank you. God forbid they try to enact their agenda, and not 'cut and run' at the first sign of some resistance.

 

It fit's into " be careful what you wish for". Be interesting to see how this all flys when the middle class realizes that their take home has been reduced by increased taxes.

 

But he's doing so when a majority of the public doesn't want it. When Bush did that, he was being a "cowboy" who didn't care about the will of the people. But Obama's just making good on a campaign promise. How sweet. And as to deskslave's typical response about Bush and the war, he fucked up by ignoring the shift in public opinion. Of course, another campaign promise Obama made was that he would bring the troops home. How's that working out? The importance of Obama keeping his promises seems pretty selective.

 

You're now sounding like the rest of the leftist peanut gallery on this board. I thought you were smarter than that.

 

That's crap. Despite what numbers some may be pulling out of their arses on this issue, the actual opinion polls indicate that when people are explained what is in the reform, there is no majority saying stop.

Even in the last Gallup poll on the topic, only 48% were against. Hardly a majority.

 

The majority of the public doesn't know what "it" is, because the public has been consistently and repeatedly lied to by an obstructive minority, one that could have been involved in productive decision-making but instead chose to resort to screaming about death panels and socialism.

And the withdrawal from Iraq is proceeding at the pace he has said it would, albeit not on the exact timetable he promised during the campaign. It's long been understood that a troop presence would remain in a non-combat role, which is exactly what's happening.

 

Well illustrated here. If the numbers don't back your assertion, just make some new numbers up.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-3-2010/anchor-management

 

So Bush's pushthrough didn't kill thousands? Or are you just extrapolating how many will die at the hands of the death panels?