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If it ain't broke, fix it anyway: NASCAR 2017 Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Batman, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    This Brickyard 400 has had enough twists and turns (and even late-race action) to be interesting, but I'm starting to wonder if they'll finish before dark. I think we're pushing the six-hour mark.

    EDIT TO ADD: And now a 30-minute red flag before we resume the overtime. Joy.
    Megyn Kelly hasn't gotten this much promotion since she feuded with Trump.
     
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  2. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Nascar gets into NBC prime time on Sunday night but looks a little ridiculous in the process. And lucky to get it in at all with the passing storm, having started at 3 at a track with no lights.
     
  3. justgladtobehere

    justgladtobehere Well-Known Member

    That Brickyard 400 was stupid. Unfucking watchable for the last hour.
     
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  4. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

  5. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Seriously, why don't they screw around with the rules at the Xfinity level before trotting them out. What would be fun if the winner(s) of the first two segments got lap bonuses meaning they didn't have to run 500, only 499 or 498. They've done stupider stuff. Figure they could "use" the lap if they got a lap down or just race out of sequence the rest of the way.
     
  6. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    NASCAR is turning into the media business. Older and expensive getting shown the door to be replaced by younger and cheap.

    Matt Kenseth likely done at Joe Gibbs Racing after this season

    Report: Stewart-Haas Racing declines to pick up Kurt Busch's 2018 option

    Target's dropping sponsorship of Kyle Larson. Danica's future is cloudy at best. NASCAR continues to shoot itself in the foot by making its two stepladder series even less relevant by keeping "big name" drivers out -- although 35,000 at IMS shows "big names" aren't much of a draw when the product is brutally bad.

    The whole thing needs an overhaul. But that would require Brian France and company to admit they screwed the pooch for the past 15 years.
     
  7. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

  8. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    The short answer to that is no. Nascar is going to have to get used to a new normal and that normal might look like the 1960s, just with sleeker cars.

    And this little section pissed me off. Nascar is still clueless with media relations, at a time when it needs media more than ever.

    I passed Chase in the pits a few minutes ago and asked him if I could ask him a few questions. He told me I have to go through his PR guy or he’ll get in trouble.
     
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  9. Mwilliams685

    Mwilliams685 Active Member

    NASCAR is its own worst enemy. Lack of driver availability. Drivers not doing a lot to put themselves out there in a time when it has never been easier. Too many gimmicks.

    Every time I think of NASCAR, I go back to a few years ago when a local radio show could only get Paul Menard before the Brickyard. He went on the show and talked about a lawn mower sale at Menards for the entire segment.
     
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  10. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    It was a good piece, and I applaud the efforts of someone without insider NASCAR knowledge to try and analyze where things go from here. Understand that I spent much of my professional career with a set of earplugs in my pocket, so ignoring Richard Petty, west coast racing at Riverside for decades and not recognizing that the sport existed before 2001 are like nails on a chalkboard for me. And while the portions with Elliott and DiBenedetto were illuminating, the stereotypical NASCAR fan responses were not. Is that all that's left at the track now?

    The 800-pound gorilla is hiding in plain sight and nobody seems to want to either expose it or deal with it. If you've ever covered a race at Talladega when Junior goes out early, the grandstands are half empty by the white flag. Losing Gordon and Stewart were body blows to a sport already reeling. Junior's going to be like taking an uppercut to the jaw.

    Brian Z. and Lesa ought to drop to their knees every night and thank the Lord for stupid people at ESPN (Disney) and NBC (Universal) who have dropped huge amounts of cash since 2008 to keep their sport from completely spinning down the drain. They're the sporting equivalent of Krispy Kreme: grew too fast and too far, and thought the double-digit growth gravy train would never end (even when major sponsors were already bailing because NASCAR PR was spinning fairy tales about reach and ROI).

    Even the biggest teams are talking about serious budgetary cutbacks. Unfortunately, unless those cuts include public relations, driver access will remain elusive. That was the most asinine thing -- having to court gatekeepers just to get five crummy minutes with someone like Paul Menard.

    NASCAR used to have a rule that every driver in the top 10 in points must provide a media availability. Due to the quirkiness of the Daytona 500, Menard was in the top 10 at Phoenix one spring. And he promptly blew us off, to which I think we were unanimous in our relief. Too bad he wound up winning the Brickyard or he might have gone an entire career without visiting the media center.

    Tony Stewart was the best at scheduling his avails at the hauler during the time when mechanics were doing their pre-practice plug checks in the garage. It'd be so loud, you couldn't hear the questions, yet alone his answers. Helped to have some lip-reading skills.
     
  11. maumann

    maumann Well-Known Member

    I saw a recent photo posted on social media of the "cool kids" table at Bristol. Bob Pockrass, Jenna Fryer, Jeff Gluck and Nate Ryan. That may be the entire extent of beat writers, not counting Lee Spencer.
     
  12. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Nascar is very fortunate that Junior is at least heading to the TV booth, so his legions of fans can hang on his every word for half the season. (And I think he could be excellent as a broadcaster.) If he went all Barry Sanders and vanished from the sport entirely, it would be much worse.
     
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