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"I wasn't willfully-blind when I wrote 'Summer of '98' -- not ME!"

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Ben_Hecht, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Again, Boom, I don't think Loopy, or Plaschke or any of these other revisionists were "duped" by anybody from 1998 to 2005.
    They saw what they saw and ignored it because all those 600 foot home runs were a whole lot of fun to write about.
    Everybody had suspicions, nobody had proof, nobody investigated.
    But please don't tell me anybody was "duped."
     
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Maybe it was the fans who were duped because they trusted the sports columnists.

    As the great Senator Blurtarsky once said "hey you fucked up you trusted me"
     
  3. Nobody "investigated."
    Again, in 1998, how?
     
  4. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    I agree Fen... other than a jar of perfectly legakl andro in McGwire's locker, it was almost impossible to inveigate.
    I just don't believe anybody was duped.
    To me, it was more a case of "there's probably something going on here, but we can't do anything about, so let's enjoy the ride."
     
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    But what is wrong with admiting now that you got on the wrong train?
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Nothing wrong with admitting it.
    Just don't tell me you were "duped."
     
  7. Nothing.
    It just seems silly and unproductive to me, that's all.
    (By the way, Boom, because I know you're a fan, I just got the galleys of Kriegel's upcoming Maravich bio in the mail. Very good stuff, if a little short of the mark - heh! -- of the Namath book.)
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    So will we see that comment on book jacket :

    " A little short of the Mark"
    Fenian Bastard
     
  9. Blurb-o-mat!
     
  10. So if I understand your position correctly, it is: Drugs are cool!
     
  11. Baba_Booey

    Baba_Booey Member

    I don't think Bob Nightengale gets enough credit for being ahead of the curve on the steroids issue. Here is a story he wrote in the LA Times in 1995. He wrote a few others after this, too.


    Steroids Become an Issue Baseball: Many fear performance-enhancing drug is becoming prevalent and believe something must be done.
    BOB NIGHTENGALE
    TIMES STAFF WRITER
    792 words
    15 July 1995
    Los Angeles Times
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    (Copyright, The Times Mirror Company; Los Angeles Times 1995 all Rights reserved)

    Anabolic steroids, the performance drugs of the 1980s in football, track, weightlifting and some other sports, apparently have become the performance drugs of the '90s in major league baseball.

    "We all know there's steroid use, and it's definitely become more prevalent," said Randy Smith, general manager of the San Diego Padres. "The ballplayers all know the dangers of it. We preach it every year.

    "But because there's so much money to be made these days, guys are willing to pay the price now and will pay the piper later.

    "I can understand it's a difficult choice for some players. They know it can take five years off their lives, but then they say, `OK, so I die when I'm 75 instead of 80.' "

    Just how prevalent is steroid use?

    "I think 10% to 20%," Smith said. "No one has any hard-core proof, but there's a lot of guys you suspect."

    Said one American League general manager, "I wouldn't be surprised if it's closer to 30%, although most people will say it's about 5% to 10%. We had one team in our league a few years ago that the entire lineup may have been on it.

    "Come on, you just don't put on 50 pounds of muscle overnight, and hit balls out of stadiums. I'm seeing guys now who were washed up five years ago, and now they've got bat speed they've never had before. It's insane.

    "You can usually pick them out, because eventually they start to get back problems."

    There is no testing for steroid use in baseball. No baseball player has ever been suspended for steroid use, and even if a player were caught using steroids, baseball demands no penalty and offers no rehabilitation.

    "I'd love to see testing myself," said Chicago White Sox first baseman Frank Thomas, one of baseball's big men at 6 feet 5 and 268 pounds. "If it can be done in every other sport, why not ours? At least it would get rid of the suspicions."

    Added Thomas, who said he gained 35 pounds during the off-season, "I went in to see my doctor this winter, and he even asked me, `Hey, are you on steroids?' It's a question people are going to ask, especially (of) the big power hitters, unless something is done about it."

    Said Padre all-star right fielder Tony Gwynn, "It's like the big secret we're not supposed to talk about, but believe me, we wonder just like the rest of people. I'm standing out there in the outfield when a guy comes up, and I'm thinking, `Hey, I wonder if this guy is on steroids.'

    "I think we all have our suspicions who's on the stuff, but unless someone comes out and admits to it, who'll ever know for sure?"

    Bud Selig, acting commissioner, said the topic was last addressed by owners in a private meeting a year or 18 months ago. The conclusion was that no one had any evidence that steroid use should be a concern.

    "If baseball has a problem, I must say candidly that we were not aware of it," Selig said. "It certainly hasn't been talked about much. But should we concern ourselves as an industry? I don't know. Maybe it's time to bring it up again."

    Said Kevin Malone, the Montreal Expos' general manager, "I'd like to see some measures taken. The game of baseball is supposed to be about purity and fairness, but if individuals are going around and getting an unfair advantage because of steroid use, we should do something about it.

    "You hear the rumors that usage is way up, and it would be nice to know if those are accurate."

    The Major League Players Assn., which prohibits random drug testing for any non-drug offender at the major league level, said steroid testing would violate individual rights. Without the consent of the players, there won't be steroid testing soon.

    "We've got guys out there willing to risk their lives just for a piece of glory," Dodger relief pitcher Todd Worrell said. "But the problem is baseball's inability to set a policy and stand by the policy. If they set a policy, and stood up to it, it'd be different.

    "But right now, there's no policy and nobody out there to enforce it.

    "And until we do, we'll continue to have (steroid) problems, finger-pointing and controversy."
     
  12. Cousin Jeffrey

    Cousin Jeffrey Active Member

    Wow, great stuff. Perfect finger-pointing article. I love this sentence from Chuck Klosterman, shooting down anyone who said they couldn't tell...

    McGwire looked like a bipedal Clydesdale swinging an elm tree; he was somehow far stronger at age 34 than he had been 10 years before. Sosa was (supposedly) only 29 in 1998, which seemed slightly more reasonable; of course, he happened to be a 29-year-old man with acne, so that was a little weird.
     
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