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I don't know Paul Newberry ...

Discussion in 'Journalism topics only' started by Justin_Rice, Nov 26, 2010.

  1. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    Agree that first sentence is maybe a little much and second sentence is very good. It's backed up by the fact that 'Bama had won 20 in a row at home. At least 19 other QBs failed to bring their teams back. It's a big enough sample size to sugest Newton has few peers in that dept.
     
  2. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Lede from AP gamer on Notre Dame-USC:

    http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=303310030
     
  3. holy bull

    holy bull Active Member

    I don't know Paul Newberry, but I'm certainly willing to trust all of the endorsements here that he's a professional, a good writer and a good guy.

    If the AP is on a crusade to wring the formula out, I'm all for that, too. But that sentence crosses the line into editorializing, plain and simple.
     
  4. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    That's a writer trying to convince himself he had a good assignment.
     
  5. holy bull

    holy bull Active Member

    And convince the readers of same.
     
  6. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    Paging ... well, me!

    This kind of sentence has belonged in game stories, AP and otherwise, for 20 years or more. Unfortunately, everybody figured it out way too late.

    Newberry's AP's expert at the game; he's experienced, he knows his shit. His opinionated take and expertise matter and are value-added for the reader.

    This is precisely what game stories need, and have always needed (and in fact, what a lot of them probably had in about 1940).

    Obviously, anybody who knows me knows I have been saying this since about 1985.
     
  7. SF_Express

    SF_Express Active Member

    I agree...this kind of thing has been creeping into AP stories more and more.

    And (see above) should be.
     
  8. novelist_wannabe

    novelist_wannabe Well-Known Member

    It is columnizing a "news" story? Eh, maybe. I'd submit that Newberry has earned a little latitude in this area. He's good enough to know where the line is. Personally, I don't think he crossed it here. If you don't want it in the story that runs in your paper/on your website, you certainly have the latitude to take it out. Put this kind of thing in a political campaign story and I doubt anybody makes an issue of it.
     
  9. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    well if they define intersectional rivalry as a catholic school from Indiana against a private nonsectarian university from Los Angeles you can't really argue it.
     
  10. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    What a weird line the AP has to hoe.

    Nobody wants vanilla AP copy anymore unless it isn't vanilla and then everybody wants vanilla again.

    The other thing is that the AP has a different master now and it isn't newspapers. Online is where they are headed and online sites like Yahoo! want smart, opinionated takes just like newspapers want the same from its staffs. It is just that (some) newspapers don't want it from AP.
     
  11. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    The death of the traditional game story is long overdue.
     
  12. nietsroob17

    nietsroob17 Well-Known Member

    When I open the Sports Digest for Georgia each afternoon, it's usually the highlight of my day to see a game covered by Paul Newberry. It's the bane of my existence to see one by George Henry.
     
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