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I don't know if it's global warming, but ...

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by spnited, Jan 6, 2007.

  1. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    All I know is it is going to be 65 this Friday and Saturday and the average temp for my town this time of year is between 25 to 30 degrees cooler. They are even talking tornadoes.
    I keep wondering why I don't think it is January and its because the weather is stuck in October. And early October at that.
  2. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    It's pretty close to normal here now, though at one point they were talking 79 on Saturday, which is dizzyingly weird. They've scaled back from that.

    My gas furnace is happy with it, though (40 bucks a month even in the summer to provide hot water for a 400-foot apartment, and as much as 200 bucks for the colder-than-normal Dec. 2005).
  3. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    No complaint from me either, $41 for electricity and $21 for the gas last month.
    I almost had a party to celebrate the electricity bill.
    So, in a weird way, global warming rocks.
  4. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    Odd how utilities work. I pay $40 for gas heat/hot water even in the warmest months. Conversely, I pay $55 in electricity for the warmest month when my window A/C is going 24/7, and $20 in non-hot months. Other places I've been are like where you are, the opposite. But yeah, for as bad as I feel for the Rockies people that got pwned by blizzards this winter, El Nino is my early leader for Time Man of the Year in 2007 (especially if it does another number on hurricane development this summer).
  5. SoSueMe

    SoSueMe Active Member

    I'm in a place where utilities are included in the rent. With all this warmth (until the past two days' eight-inches of snow) I don't feel I'm getting my money's worth.

    I'm sleeping with the lights and TV on for two weeks straight!
  6. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    I lived in a place after college where the all the bills but phone and cable were included in the rent, which was super cheap.
    It was heaven.
    It was also above a store and whenever I wanted something, I just walked down the steps to get a coke or candy bar.
  7. Dirk Legume

    Dirk Legume Active Member

    Got to get yours baby!! Got to get yours.

    We're about the same as usual around here. Temps in the mid 50's to around 60. But they say we could have a high of 40 or so for the next 2 or three days.

    Oh, and I pay between 250 and 300 a month for gas and electric, winter and summer. So you 40 to 50 dollar people can bite me. ;)
  8. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Electric heat sucks. I'm all-electric and my first bill of winter is always around $250-$300. Then I get sticker shock, turn the thermostat down to 50 and freeze till March.
  9. Mystery_Meat

    Mystery_Meat Guest

    And this mild winter may be about to change. Dramatically. At least according to Joe Bastardi, AccuWeather forecaster and the butt of so many jokes growing up:


    Prolonged Period of Cold and Stormy Weather Appears on the Way

    (State College, PA - January 8, 2007) - The unseasonably warm winter experienced by much of the country is likely to "turn on a dime," in the words of AccuWeather.com Chief Long-Range Forecaster Joe Bastardi.

    Bastardi said that the weather pattern from mid-January through mid-February has a chance to mimic the winters of 1965-66 and 1957-58, each of which ended cold and stormy after a warm start. A worst-case scenario would be if this winter plays out as did the winter of 1977-1978.

    Similar to this year, 1977-1978 was a winter with a waning El Nino. After a tepid start, the second half of the winter was noted for its cold and remarkable storminess, including back-to-back-to-back blizzards in the Northeast.

    "Those who think that winter 2006-2007 is going to remain mild are in for a shock," said Bastardi. "Winter is likely to come with a vengeance. A week from now, we'll start seeing truly cold air across much of the country, and we expect this change to last."

    Added Bastardi, "Whether we end up with seasonably cold weather, or something far worse, remains to be seen. There are indications that this winter could parallel severe winters of the past. Even should we not see an extremely cold and snowy conclusion to winter, you can be sure that by the end of the month, when those in the Northeast are shoveling out their driveways and sidewalks, the mild weather we're experiencing now will be a distant memory."

    Where Will Winter Go From Here?
    The first signs of change will be noticed this week. A passing shot of cold air will knock temperatures down to typical January levels in the northeastern part of the country for a few days. Temperatures will return to unseasonably warm levels by the latter part of week and last into early next week. The seeds for the more-lasting change, however, will be planted in the western part of the country.

    Arctic air from western Canada will pour southward into the Pacific Northwest, northern Rockies, and northern Plains this week, and this will mark the beginning of a true winter weather pattern that will encompass much of the nation over the next couple of weeks. The core of the coldest air by the latter part of the week will be centered in the Rockies and northern Plains, and the arrival of the cold air will mean another round of accumulating snow for Denver later this week.

    The cold air will slowly push southward and eastward from this weekend into early next week and will likely arrive in the eastern part of the country by the middle of next week. Much of the nation will then have a cold weather pattern for the second half of the month.

    Long-range forecasting expert Bastardi points out that it's too early to say with certainty that the change in the weather pattern will be long-lasting or produce heavy amounts of snow. However, he believes that if the weather pattern reaches its full potential, the dramatic change from warmth to cold could result in "one of the top-five coldest 30-day stretches in the past half century."

    To speak with a meteorologist about this story, call the AccuWeather.com 24/7 media line, (814) 235-8710.
  10. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    That Joe Bastardi, what a bastard!
    And the winters of 77-78 was what caused my parents to pack up the family and flee from Illinois to the warmer, snow-free climes of the South.
    And if what he is forecasting is true, then my next stop is the Florida Keys.
  11. SoSueMe

    SoSueMe Active Member


    I was two in 1978. In the family photo album, there are photos of me in my dad's lap as we toboggan down from the peak of our roof right onto snow drifts that touched the eavestrough.

    Those photos were taken after he finally made it home from work, at which he was stranded for nearly two days. He made it home when a friend came and picked him up on a snowmobile.

    All this happened well south of where I'm at now.

    Please do NOT let this winter be like that.

    PS - Snowing for the third consecutive day here - 10 inches now on the ground. More to come the next two days.
  12. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Was that the winter that it snowed in Miami, or wasn't it the year before?
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