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Houston's Case Keenum should win Heisman

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by SnoopyBoy, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. SnoopyBoy

    SnoopyBoy Member


    Keenum vs. Miss State: 435 Yards, 4 TDs, 2 Ints
    Tebow vs. Miss State: 127 Yards, 0 TD, 2 Ints (1 run for a TD)
    Keenum vs. Texas Tech: 435 Yards, 1 TD, 1 Int, 1 Rush TD
    McCoy vs. Texas Tech: 205 Yards, 1 TD, 1 Int
    Keenum vs. Oklahoma State: 366 Yards, 3 TDs, 1 Int, 1 Rush TD
    McCoy vs. Oklahoma State: 171 Yards, 1 TD, 0 Int
    Keenum vs. UTEP: 536 Yards, 5 TDs, 0 Int
    McCoy vs. UTEP: 286 Yards, 3 TDs, 1 Int
  2. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Tebow definitely shouldn't win it
  3. SnoopyBoy

    SnoopyBoy Member

    Tebow shouldn't be in mix, I agree.
  4. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Keenum's best shot to win it was for Houston to go undefeated, but that obviously didn't happen. I think he'll continue to gain momentum throughout November, but if Tebow, Ingram or McCoy lights it up in their respective conference championship games (and chances are, at least one of them will), it's over.
  5. SnoopyBoy

    SnoopyBoy Member

    Keenum had his best game against UTEP in a game Houston lost. His defense has put him in bad positions every game and he for once he couldn't overcome them. Not on him.
  6. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    I know it wasn't on him, but if Houston was undefeated, they'd be getting talked up for a BCS bowl, which would obviously increase Keenum's exposure.
  7. SnoopyBoy

    SnoopyBoy Member

    True, true.
    Interesting to remember when Houston's Andre Ware won the Heisman 20 years, his team was on probation and didn't play a single game on TV.
  8. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The problem I have with this line of thinking is that it is obvious that McCoy isn't less talented or went out and didn't play as well against those teams. It's that Keenum and McCoy play for two different teams that go about their business differently. When Houston stepped on the field against some of those teams, the coaches knew that the only chance they had was to make defense a secondary focus and acknowledge that those teams were going to get their points, and instead focus on making it into a passing shootout. It's a game plan that has taken Houston pretty far this year (although one of the games you focused on was UTEP, which beat Houston, and Texas beat UTEP 64-7, meaning whatever McCoy's numbers compared to Keenum, he didn't have to throw for 500 yards [and still lose the game]. When Houston lost to UTEP 58-41, by the way, Keenum had 536 yards passing and 5 TDs, but he attempted 76 passes. Put a lot of quarterbacks into that system and they would look pretty damned good. Texas beat UTEP 64-7 [why you play the game, not to compile stats] and in contrast McCoy only attempted to throw 35 times. He was relieved because it wasn't even close and they put in a freshman backup to get experience (who went 5 for 6 for 49 yards, which if anything diminishes what Keenum was able to do against them). Week after week, Texas goes out and plays defense, and tries to establish a fairly balanced running/passing game. They are 9-0 and have played a tougher schedule than Houston. Keenum's numbers are impressive, but they play track meet football games that puts him on the field for more time allowing him to pad his stats, and they have him throwing the ball for insane numbers of attempts. That will pad anyone's stats.
  9. Pancamo

    Pancamo Active Member

    If Tebow wins the Heisman, its proof that voters don't watch the games.

    As for padding stats, Meyer had Tebow throwing against Vandy with the score 27-3 and 5 minutes to go. Hernandez took a short pass and went 64 yards and Meyer took him out.
  10. SnoopyBoy

    SnoopyBoy Member

    As bad as Houston's defense is, the Cougars need as many points as they can and Keenum on the field as much as they can.
  11. mustangj17

    mustangj17 Active Member

  12. Rumpleforeskin

    Rumpleforeskin Active Member

    SnoopyBoy, you a Keenum fan?
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