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Hot Stove Thread 2014-15

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Why is that the "decider"?
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    For the same reason you'd come up with a set of statistical bullshit for whatever baseball argument you're trying to make.

    It's all statistical bullshit. But my deciding statistical bullshit doesn't smell nearly as bad as Joe's do.
  3. Gehrig

    Gehrig Active Member


    Barry Zito wants to play next year. Can't see him getting much of an offer from any team.
  4. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Felix spent half the season setting a Major League record.

    He spent the other half pitching like a Cy Young contender.

    I can see where voters would have a tough time with this.
  5. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    When I saw Xan's statistical breakdown, I thought 93Devil was back.
  6. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    In your mind, Kluber should win it because?
  7. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Voter Anthony Castrovince on Kluber:

    "Razor thin but just think it was a better pick"

    "2nd-half ERA better 1.73 to 2.16"

    Strikeout-to-walk ratio "big to me"

    The FIP argument because Kluber pitched in front of a "substantially worse defense"

    Not to mention the "less forgiving ballpark"

    And let's not forget he didn't have "as strong of a supporting (rotation) cast"

    Which means "he meant more to the team"

    Plus, what about those curious scoring changes at the end of the season?

    Video at bottom: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/101255212/indians-corey-kluber-wins-al-cy-young-award-dodgers-clayton-kershaw-a-unanimous-pick-for-nl-honor
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't have any problem with anyone who voted for Felix. It's a coin flip.

    With Whitman in self-imposed exile, have you become the voice that says there must be a right and wrong in award voting?
  9. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member


    I mean, no, I'll save the string-a-fucks for Dick.

    That said, you were heavily involved in the Bumgarner-Morris thread but you don't want to offer an opinion on this? What did Kluber do better?

    That's what we do in society, debate who's best at stuff, and when it's a "coin flip" we dig a little deeper.

    For me, with all things being equal, it's Felix set a substantial major league pitching record. What's Kluber's big thing?

    And yes, it's just an award. Doesn't mean I can't get my panties in a wad.
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I actually wasn't that involved in the Bumgarner-Morris thread. I think my first post on there was "why vote, who can tell the difference anyway?"
  11. JC

    JC Well-Known Member

  12. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    I wonder how much Felix's disastrous start at Toronto in the last week of the season — which might have cost the Mariners a playoff spot — made a difference to voters.
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