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Homeless Encounter - WWYD?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by exmediahack, Apr 5, 2015.

  1. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Had another one one time at church. Guy comes into the service -- while it's going on -- and starts asking to see the pastor. Afterward the pastor (a family friend of ours) meets the guy, who starts in with the story about how he and his kids are homeless, living in the car, can the church give him some money to get through a few days, etc.
    The pastor tells him this particular church doesn't give money directly, but can help. He offers him some food, offers to get him in touch with an outreach program that can help with the housing situation, and some other stuff that they do on a regular basis.
    Guy declines and quickly leaves.
    The pastor isn't the most street savvy person I know, but afterward said even he'd sniffed out that the guy was just looking for money.
     
  2. HackyMcHack

    HackyMcHack Member

    My church does the Ziploc bag thing, as well, although the sock thing is new. Good idea.

    I've also had a friend who was into feeding the homeless load up on $5 McDonald's gift cards and hand those out instead of cash.

    I would never give cash. Never, ever. And when they try to get me coming out of the store, I go right back in and ask for the manager, who usually knows if the panhandler is habitual or not (and usually runs them off). Hackyville also has an anti-panhandling ordinance, although we also have homeless basically living (sleeping) in a chain soup/salad/sandwich store and a couple of fast food joints in a semi-respectable neighborhood...
     
  3. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    I inferred from EMH's original post the kids were already ensconced in a motel within fairly short walking distance, so my total time involvement would be something like:

    1) Escort mom back to motel and drop her with kids -- 5 mins.
    2) Go to front desk and pay cash (not debit/credit card) for another night -- 5 mins.
    3) Head over to grocery store and buy a day's cheap grub for 4 people -- 15 mins.
    4) Return, drop off the food, be on your way -- 5 mins.

    So a half-hour tops should do it.

    I've seen variations of the Ziploc bag thing suggested with a number of seemingly useful things to offer, but I've noticed quite common the suggestion is either a bar of soap or a deodorant stick, which to me seems like a pretty condescending and asinine thing to do, even if the homeless person does kinda smell, which is not unheard of.
     
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  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Those gas station cons are far too common. A woman tried it on me at a local Costco station, saying she just needed money for gas to get home with her family, then she continued to make the rounds hassling other customers. I finally said something to the gas station attendant, that he should do something. He flipped out on me, even suggested that the customers were in the wrong for not helping her out. He cursed loudly and ranted. I finished getting my gas and drove around to the front of the store. I tracked down a manager, who asked if the woman fit a certain description. Turns out, she had pulled that same scam many times and all employees were told to call the police immediately if the situation came up again.

    Kind of a nice feeling knowing your instincts were right and you picked up on it when somebody was trying to pull a scam.
     
  5. Riptide

    Riptide Well-Known Member

    Might have told this story before: One morning about 9 a.m. I was in my car at an intersection, and I gave some money to a panhandler who looked really downtrodden. Had a bunch of singles in my wallet, so I just grabbed them and gave him a fistful of dollar bills and said, "Now you get some food with this, OK?" And he says, "Yessir, I will. I will." There was a McDonald's right there on the corner.

    Light turns green, I drive through the intersection and look for him in the rear-view, and he's in a dead sprint, ass over elbows, for the liquor store about 50 yards behind the McDonalds. I was laughing so hard I almost drove into a ditch.
     
  6. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    We used to have people doing the "Five bucks for gas" scam outside the bars. I learned the best way to deal with them was tell them you had a 5-gallon can of gas in the trunk of your car and ask where their car was parked. That's when they usually say "no thanks."
     
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  7. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    The problem is that if she's shitty enough to use her kids as props for something other than what she says wants your money for, there is a good chance she's shitty enough to go through the charade of having you pay directly for a motel room she is not going to use. And you've wasted your time running around town with her.

    I am so jaded to these kinds of things, because I have seen way more people than I can stomach where I live using kids as props to scrounge up money.

    The way I see it, there is no right or wrong. It sucks either way: Either 1) She is being 100 percent up front about her circumstances (although where I live, it would be unlikely), in which case she and the kids are in bad shape, or 2) She is full of shit and those kids are getting a raw deal on their childhood (did you see all the kids? I wasn't clear on that).

    If you want to take a leap of faith that it is 1, assuming you can afford the money and you want to give a night or two of relief to the kids plus a meal or two, just give it to her and don't overthink it. There is a good chance your money isn't going to get used the way you intend. But there is a chance it will -- which is why you gave it to her. Go home and sleep well.

    Not quite the same situation, but my best beg-for-money encounter was on a New Jersey Transit train a few months ago. I got on at Penn Station in NY, and waiting for a train to depart, a woman who looked like she had lived REALLY hard walked into the car holding $5 and started going from person to person saying she was short the rest of the money for the train, blah blah blah. She looked strung out, so no one was giving her any money. She got to me, and I looked at her, looked at the empty seat next to me, and said, "Have a seat. When the conductor comes, give him your $5 and I'll make up the difference." Pretty much what a lot of people on this thread would have suggested. I actually wondered later if that happens to her a lot. She declined, as I was betting she would, and walked out of my car -- maybe for the next one. For a second, though, I was doubting my wisdom -- I was afraid she'd sit down and go through the charade.
     
  8. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    I follow my stepfather's lead with those situations. If I see a homeless person in front of a grocery store, I'll sometimes ask them if there is something they want to eat. Sometimes they're completely gracious and ask for some soup or something like that and other times they'll start yelling, "What you don't trust me to buy something on my own?" and I just walk away.
     
  9. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    When I was in high school I gave a couple dollars to a homeless guy begging in front of a store. 20 minutes later, I saw him in line with four 40s in the cart. Money well spent...
     
  10. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Old Greg Giraldo bit:

    "I was out the other night, and this homeless guy asked me for money, and I thought, 'He's just going to use it for drugs or alcohol.' And then I thought, 'That's what I am going to use it on.' Why should I judge this guy? People are always judging homeless guys, like 'If you give him the money, he's just going to waste it. He's going to waste the money.' Well, he lives in a box. What do you want him to do with it? Save it up and buy a wall unit? . ... People can be such bastards to homeless guys. I walked behind this guy the other day, and this homeless guy asked him for money, and he looks right at the homeless guy and says, 'Why don't you go out and get a job, you bum?' Like it's always that easy. This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants. I'm guessing his resume ain't all up to date. I'm predicting some problems during the interview process. I'm pretty sure your basic sweatshop even has an underwear go inside the pants policy. What kind of work is this guy supposed to get? He lives in the garbage. Welcome to Smith Barney, smelly, come on in. We've got a job for you!"
     
  11. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    It's a tough situation. I was with my oldest kid around Christmas and I wanted him to see how rewarding it can be to give back and I walked up to a homeless guy and said, "Hey, can I get you a sandwich or some soup?" and he MFd me right in front of my kid for not giving him cash.
     
  12. God, half you all should write/work for Rolling Stone.

    :)
     
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