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Hofstra drops football program

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!, Dec 3, 2009.

  1. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    VCU and football go together as well as vinegar and water. It wouldn't work and quite frankly, I can't see Richmond supporting it. UR has its fans. VUU has its fans. I can't see where VCU would fit in the puzzle.
     
  2. nmmetsfan

    nmmetsfan Active Member

    Funny you mention the alums part. Benedictine College, which at one time was an NAIA football power, continually reaps the benefits of their alumni who happened to be football players in the 1980s and 1990s. Would those players have gone to BC without football? I would bet not many of them.

    I'm sure you can find schools that are exceptions, but most small schools in the NAIA and D-III are more than 50 percent athletes. Most of those athletes attend the schools largely because they get to play sports (my wife was one of them). Football can bring in 100 or more (continuing with Benedictine as an example, they had 175 this season) students. At $10,000 a semester, they more than pay for themselves. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
     
  3. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Well, VCU has its fans, too. Outdraws both those schools you mention in hoops, by a wide margin the past couple of years. The problem is not a fan base. The problem is logistical (and more).
     
  4. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    I agree. Logistics would be great problem. I remember when ODU got its program started and there was a buzz that VCU would do the same. I'm glad that didn't happen.
     
  5. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    I know I joke with you about VCU football a lot but I'd be interested to know what the logistical problems are. I don't really know a lot about the area.
     
  6. Karl Hungus

    Karl Hungus Member

    Is this the longest thread regarding CAA football in the history of SportsJournalists.com?
     
  7. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    I'll give you a longer answer when I have more time. Short answer - urban university, not a lot of room to put things like, oh, athletic facilities needed to handle football AND the sports you'd have to add to keep your gender equity in line.
    Plus money. It costs lots. And lots.
    Many programs there already need serious attention before they go adding a big one.
     
  8. Jim_Carty

    Jim_Carty Member

    Outside the BCS conferences? Yes.

    See the rest of the post above - for the most part athletics are a negative for colleges and universities.
     
  9. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Terrible loss to college football. There are plenty of FCS schools at the bottom of the Sagarins that absolutely do not belong in Division I.

    Hofstra was not one of them. They had at least a little history, and this year they were 30th in the nation in power rating among FCS teams. Maybe there will be enough of an outcry to change school officials' minds. That's remote, though.

    Someone mentioned Stony Brook earlier. Are there any D-II football programs on the island that could stand to benefit?
     
  10. Jim_Carty

    Jim_Carty Member

    This is a myth.

    How do I know that? My brother has been a D3 head coach at multiple schools, while also working in the admissions office. Pretty informed viewpoint. There is no college in America were they don't have 25 more applicants a year ready to step in if they cut football (or 100 more applicants a year if they cut all sports).

    There are certainly schools that use athletics as a recruiting tool, and the cost/benefit math certainly works better when you're dealing with a non-scholarship situation, but schools folding? No shot.

    My brother, of course, would completely disagree with my suggestion that athletics adds little or nothing to the college environment at many lower-profile schools that would be wiser to focus on improving academics. Don't want anyone thinking he endorses my generally negative viewpoint on the benefits of college athletics.
     
  11. zeke12

    zeke12 Guest

    Hofstra is a college, now?

    (Sorry, Beej. I held out as long as I could.)
     
  12. nmmetsfan

    nmmetsfan Active Member

    I have a hard time believing most of these schools are turning away qualified applicants. Most schools would rather grow than turn away qualified applicants.

    And in a school with about 1,000 students or less, it's not a myth. See how many are athletes. The schools won't fold because they aren't cutting athletics.

    Back to the original point of the thread, I don't believe this will help Hofstra in the long run.
     
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