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Hillary is a Fraud

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Boom_70, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Read these 2 statements from Hillary both made within the year and ask yourself if you could support someone so disingenuous.

    Here is what Hillary said March 7 2007:

    "Now, five months later the voting rights act was enacted by Congress and signed by President Johnson, but we all know it was written on the march from Selma to Montgomery.

    It was written by men and women with tired feet and swollen ankles. And it was first signed with their blood, sweat, and tears."

    Here is what Hillary said in New Hampshire January 14 th 2008

    “Dr King’s dream began to be realised when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It took a president to get it done.”
  2. alleyallen

    alleyallen Guest

    Boom, not to nitpick, but is this really all you have? I mean, seriously. The differences between the two statements, in terms of intent and meaning, are so tiny as to be irrelevant.

    If you don't like Hillary, that's fine. Got no problem with that. But for this to be the "proof" that Hillary is a fraud? I'm sure there's better evidence you could post.

    Good day.
  3. Sorry, Boom.
    Both statements are true. One is primarily metaphor. The second is not. And I'd like it-- actually, I'd LOVE it -- if you'd explain the motive for what you see as the inconsistency here. What political advantage was there to be gained by saying the second thing after having said the first thing?
    Pass the popcorn, chef.
  4. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    As opposed to metaphor I prefer the word hyperbole.

    As far as political advantage statement 2 was made to contradict Obama just before New Hampshire primaries.

    As a sidebar she is not even aware that congress passes laws - not the President.
  5. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Alley - their are countless examples. Shall we discuss her ever changing stance on Iraq?

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
    show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
    stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
    He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists,
    including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left
    unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to
    wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop
    nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
  6. Terence Mann

    Terence Mann Member

    So you're faulting her for believing the Bush administration's ever-wrong intelligence reports on Iraq in 2002? And now that we know the truth, you think she has to have the same opinion as she did when the basis for her opinion was wrong? That's just silly. Please stop.
  7. BTExpress

    BTExpress Well-Known Member

    We had inspectors there in February 2003.

    So Saddam was not "left unchecked." Hillary's statement posed a possibility of what might happen if he was left unchecked.

    Boom, do you even try?
  8. Ben_Hecht

    Ben_Hecht Active Member





  9. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    intellegence reports passed om from the clinton administration.

    Just remember that Hillary made this statement just before voting for the war.
  10. Oh, good god.
    If you don't see that the first is metaphor and not hyperbole, or that the two are not in anyway synonomous, well, there's nowhere to go there.
    And what is the political advantage to be gained by contrdadicting Obama -- and isn't that what candidates are supposed to do to each other? -- before NH? An appeal to white voters or to appeal to the well-known reservoir of historical good feeling held toward LBJ in the state that helped doom his re-election campaign in 1968?
    Please explain more fully.
    As to the latter point, Christ, get real.

    And the dodge on the origin of the fake intelligence reports is just sad.
  11. Terence Mann

    Terence Mann Member

    This is getting funnier by the minute.
  12. hockeybeat

    hockeybeat Guest

    Clearly, it makes sense for a politician to never change his or her mind. Just look at the epic success that is the War in Iraq.
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