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Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Yawn, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    Now you can relate to the working class of America. This excerpt from Jim Reeves' column at the Fort Worth Startelegram:

    Middle man out

    The middle man is getting squeezed out in baseball, and this spring is a prime example of that.

    Almost two weeks into spring camps and proven veteran players such as Kenny Lofton, Mike Piazza, Corey Patterson and Shannon Stewart are still without jobs.

    Teams would rather save money by giving their own younger players an opportunity than by spending a couple of million dollars on a fading veteran.

    "With the top end of salaries still escalating, it's got to come from somewhere ... is it from that middle class?" Rangers general manager Jon Daniels said. "I haven't looked at it hard enough to know for sure, but teams like us say to themselves, 'We can spend a couple million dollars on a track record, but is it a track record of more than mediocrity? Would we rather roll the dice and give an opportunity to one of our own kids that we believe in and maybe have a positive surprise?'"

    There are bargains to be had out there now -- Lofton hit .296 last year, Piazza hit .275, Patterson stole 37 bases and Stewart hit .290 -- but nobody's calling.
     
  2. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    The "proven veteran player" is about the biggest waste in all sports.

    About the only thing certain about a non-superstar player after age 30 is that his production is going to go down, down, down.
     
  3. Yawn

    Yawn New Member

    So is that the same argument for any American worker over 30?
     
  4. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    No, in 98 percent of all professions, people can be very productive up into their 50s and 60s.

    In professional sports, athletes reach their physical peak at age 26-28, and then enter an inevitable and precipitous decline.
     
  5. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    I'd looooooove to be a baseball middle classer. Have made several million bucks for playing a game and being average at it and can retire and live like a king the rest of my life by the age of 35 or 36.
     
  6. spnited

    spnited Active Member

    Lofton is 41 years old, a role player who made $6 mill last season and a pain in the ass to deal with.
    Piazza is almost 40, a declining DH who hasn't had an injury-free season in 5 years.
    Patterson, only 29, never was any good, a lifetime .258 hitter.
    Stewart is 34 but only cost the A's $1 mill last year. The only one who might be worth signing.
     
  7. You can also take HGH or steroids to revive your career for that one fat contract - without taking much of a pr hit. Just as long as you don't get HOF good it's OK.
     
  8. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Wow, they're not throwing money at guys who don't deserve it. What a concept.
     
  9. The Commish

    The Commish Guest

    Stewart signed a minor-league deal with the Jays on Sunday.
     
  10. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    I suppose I could use Byung-Hyun Kim (30 years old, $850K contract/maybe $1 mil w/incentives), Mark Loretta (36 years old, $2.75 mil in arbitration), Livan Hernandez (33 years old, $5 mil), and Luis Gonzalez (40 years old, $2 mil contrat) as examples that this article is bullshit.
     
  11. Starman

    Starman Well-Known Member

    Yep, team after team, in all sports, continue to trundle in middle-aged mediocrities, and spew crap about "seasoned experience," "professional hitters," "locker-room leaders," blah blah, yadda yadda.
     
  12. Smasher_Sloan

    Smasher_Sloan Active Member

    Sad to say, but $850K to $1 million is chump change in MLB.
     
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