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Heisman Watch

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dan Rydell, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. Shaggy

    Shaggy Guest

    How about we wait more than one fucking week before talking Heisman?

    The reason the trophy has become a predictable, stale award is becuase we think of the finalists before the season even fucking starts.
     
  2. MU_was_not_so_hard

    MU_was_not_so_hard Active Member

    Since when do you have to be a potential first-round pick or future NFL stud to win the Heisman (even though I think Brennan will be a first-rounder, possibly early second).

    Since '89 -- Ware, Detmer, Howard, Torretta, Ward, Salaam, George, Wuerffel, Woodson, Williams, Dayne, Weinke, Crouch, Palmer, White, Leinart, Bush, Smith.

    Not even half that list (even if you exclude Smith since his pro career hasn't started yet) did anything professionally -- unless you count Wuerffel's Christmas Album.
     
  3. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    DVR.
     
  4. Dan Rydell

    Dan Rydell Guest

    Hawaii, which didn't call a running play until the fourth quarter, had 577 yards of offense........
     
  5. ondeadline

    ondeadline Well-Known Member

    This is one of many reasons I hate the Heisman. We're not even done with Week 1 and there's talk about who might win. This tells me that it is as much about who his hyped as it is about performance. When was the last time the Heisman Trophy winner came out of nowhere and wasn't even hyped by his school's sports-information department before the season started?

    In a perfect world, you wouldn't even talk about who might win it until at least eight weeks into the season.

    In college basketball, we don't talk in early December about who might win the national player of the year. The closest thing is the the stupid "preseason player-of-the-year awards."
     
  6. CollegeJournalist

    CollegeJournalist Active Member

    Tim Couch was the first fucking pick of the NFL Draft, and he was nothing but a system quarterback.

    Kentucky fans, at the time, would've sworn up and down that Couch was a stud that had all the tools. Now, ask someone who got to watch Tim Couch play for four years, and they'll tell you: He was a product of Hal Mumme's goofy ass offense and quick wide receivers.

    Brennan may be damn good. But just because he's a "lock" for the first round doesn't mean he's not a system quarterback.
     
  7. CollegeJournalist

    CollegeJournalist Active Member

    Oh, and the Heisman trophy is a complete joke. Stop marketing this as the "best player in college football," because if it really was that, more offensive lineman, defensive lineman, linebackers and defensive backs would win the award. It's an award for the "best QB, WR or HB" in college football.

    If it were truly an award for the best player, Orlando Pace would have won it.
     
  8. jakewriter82

    jakewriter82 Active Member

    Chad Henne? Anyone? :p
     
  9. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Numbers don't matter. It's big time performances in big time games that count. I don't know if Boise is a big enough game for Brennan to have a shot.
     
  10. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    Agreed. Like this year, maybe the defensive end at LSU (Dorsey?) could win it. Never going to happen.
     
  11. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    Tashard's the Choice
     
  12. CollegeJournalist

    CollegeJournalist Active Member

    You could make a pages-long list of guys who should have won the award that didn't, solely because of the position they played or the team they played for.

    Like I said, Orlando Pace was the best player in America in 1996. Just to think that he finished fourth in the voting as an OL means he should have won the damn thing.

    Hell, Tim Couch finished fourth in the voting in 1998. Should he have? Hell no. But he was a trendy QB on a trendy Kentucky team and had some decent numbers, so he got some votes. But he probably wasn't one of the ten best players in college football in 1998.
     
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