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Heath Shuler sure seems like a decent guy (non-polictical)

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by Double Down, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Got this from Deadspin, obviously.

    The goofball over at StopShuler.com, a web site dedicated to bashing all things Heath Shuler, mostly his poor play with the Redskins, sent Shuler's press secretary (he's running for congress as a Dem, in case you didn't know) an email awhile back, asking if he'd do an interview. The guy figured Shuler would never respond and that he'd get to make a smart ass post about how Shuler won't face his critics, but Shuler calls back. And does the interview. And is totally a good-spirit about it. Says he reads the site and thinks it's funny, and hopes it continues. It's a shame more politicians don't have this kind of perspective.

    Also, um ... BLOGS!

  2. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Link doesn't work.
  3. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Really? Try the front page of the site, then scroll down to Shuler Speaks!

  4. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Is it dot-com or dot-net? Because even that isn't working for me. Really seems odd. It's directing me to a page that says the site is being built.
  5. Perry White

    Perry White Active Member

    It's working for me.
  6. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Here you go, Headbutt. Sorry to steal hits from this guy, but whatever.

    Stop Shuler: Why did you fail in the NFL?

    Heath Shuler: I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Everyone on the team, myself included, gave 110%. You’ve got to give the team that -- we tried hard. It just didn’t work out there. It’s not uncommon, just look at Steve Young in Tampa Bay, Brett Favre in Atlanta -- they had to go to other places, where they had a lot of talent around them before they succeeded.

    SS: You just compared yourself to two Hall of Fame quarterbacks -- is that fair?

    HS: Well, I’m just saying that they are examples of how sometimes things don’t work out the first place you go. Look at my good friends Trent Green and Brad Johnson -- they played in DC and went on to success elsewhere -- Brad even won a Super Bowl.

    SS: They also played well in Washington, though.

    HS: True enough.

    SS: Do you think Norv Turner mishandled the QB situation when you were there?

    HS: Coach Turner was rookie like the rest of us. I’m sure he looks back on things and thinks he made some mistakes, just like we all do. I don’t know if it would have ever worked for me in Washington.

    SS: One of the criticisms that people have made is that perhaps Turner’s offense was too complicated for you. Some have even suggested that you forgot the plays on the way to the huddle.

    HS: I think you need to hear a coach or another player say that before you can say that it is true. Just because you hear in on some blog or on your site, doesn’t mean it is true.

    SS: So, it wasn’t a matter of the playbook being too complicated for you?

    HS: No -- that couldn’t be farther from the truth. You shouldn’t believe that stuff unless you hear it from a coach.

    SS: The reason you cited for not doing a debate with your opponent was that you give 110% on any day but Sunday. You had to know that people would connect it to your playing days. Did your "no work on Sunday" policy affect your play?

    HS: [Laughs] That must have been it -- you’ve figured it out. I was used to playing on Friday nights and Saturdays -- that’s why the NFL wasn’t a success.

    SS: You did win the only Redskins game you played on a Saturday.

    HS: Maybe you’ve discovered the secret. I’ll take my faith over football any day.

    SS: You talk about "Mountain Values" a lot. What exactly are mountain values? How are they different than coastal values? I saw the movie Deliverance recently -- they had mountain values, but I assume yours are different.

    HS: Mountain values are about community, faith, and respect for others. They are about saying "yes sir" and "no ma’am" and taking your hat off when you go indoors. They are about pulling over for a funeral procession. They are about being there for people when they need help.

    SS: They don’t sound unique to mountains. They actually sound like military values.

    HS: You may not understand what they mean, being on the coast, but the people around here know what we’re talking about.

    SS: If you are elected, what is the next step? No one wants to be just a Congressman. You have to campaign constantly, and freshman Congressmen are not even like freshmen on a football team -- they’re like freshmen male cheerleaders, pecking order-wise.

    HS: I think actually I will be able to get a lot done -- we have received a lot of national attention. That is the reason your site has been in the news as well. I think I will be able to have influence.

    SS: I was thinking more about your personal ambition -- do you want to be a Senator? Or Governor? Or worse?

    HS: Well, I think we’re going to take things one step at a time. We’re going to make sure that Western North Carolina is represented well, and our country is headed is the right direction. I’m not going to worry about anything else.

    SS: Obviously your training with dealing with sports media has done you well -- you can say the same things: "We’re just going to take it one game at a time, and good Lord willing, it will all work out."

    HS: [Laughs] I guess you’re right.

    SS: Okay, November 26, 1995. RFK stadium -- a 14-7 loss to the Eagles. Did you hear me boo?

    HS: What? Did I hear you boo? I mean, I obviously couldn’t pick one person out --
    You know, was that you guys that got a beach ball taken away? I heard some boos when that happened, I’m sure it wasn’t because of an interception or anything…

    SS: Now some random questions. Do you really not drink carbonated beverages?

    HS: No, I don’t. It was a challenge my dad laid on me when I was a kid, and I stick with it. I’ll have some tea when I’m out and about, though.

    SS: So is it the bubbles? Or the caffeine?

    HS: The caffeine. I’m disciplined about these things, but if I’m at an event where there’s just tea, I’ll drink it.

  7. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    SS: The names of your kids are Navy and Island -- what’s up with that?

    HS: My son is Navy. It was the only name my wife and I agreed on -- she made a list of ten names, and I made a list of ten names. And that was the only one that matched. It was from a road atlas -- there was a Navy street on a map. My daughter is Island -- it came from Island transportation company. My wife and I were driving around talking about names, and the truck went by. We both liked it. They’re good nautical names. We don’t have any oceans up here in the mountains, so I guess we thought we would use the nautical theme.

    SS: Just so you know, you have inspired my wife and I to name our next child "Marine Corps."

    HS: [Laughs] That’s funny.

    SS: Do you really talk to Steve Spurrier?

    HS: Yes, I do. I talked to him when he took the SC job, and then after spring practice. I haven’t talked to him recently, because I’ve been so busy. But the Volunteers play South Carolina tonight, and that’s always a good game.

    SS: I refer to the Steve Spurrier era as Redskins head coach as "Two years of my life I’m not getting back." I’m sure Redskins fans don’t like the idea of you two getting together.

    HS: [Laughs] I suppose that is true.

    SS: So what do you really think of this website?

    HS: Well, we live in a free country, and I figure that as long as people are talking about me, it’s a good thing. I like watching the site to see what’s next -- it is like being a character in a book. It’s always interesting. It keeps us motivated here at the office, and it keeps us laughing. I think it is good that someone can make light of politics. It’s like seeing politicians on the Daily Show -- it’s good to laugh at politicians. I figure that if you can laugh at yourself, it makes you a better person.

    SS: Do you think it will have an impact on the election?

    HS: Well, we’re spending millions of dollars to reach tens of thousands of voters, and it is hard for one person or one site to have much of an impact. But I think it’s great. I really do. Now, would my parents or my wife like it -- probably not. They take these things too personally.

    I mean, there was no one who wanted me to play better in Washington that I did. After the third game in my rookie year, when we weren’t doing well with John Friez, the coach comes up to me and says, "Kid, are you ready?" What was I going to say? "No, let me sit another year?" I mean as a competitor, you want to get out there and play, whether you’re ready or not.

    SS: So you don’t think you were ready to play?

    HS: Listen, not too many freshman quarterbacks make an immediate impact like Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman. You are seeing some this year, like Matt Leinart, who showed some poise bringing his team down the field against the Bears, but the kicker missed the field goal.

    SS: How you like to get compared to quarterbacks like Ryan Leaf?

    HS: I don’t think I do get compared to him.

    SS: Well, we did. And it comes up every so often talking about draft busts.

    HS: I think the biggest difference between Ryan Leaf and I were our personalities. You didn’t see me snapping at anyone in the media.

    I think if you look at my career, I just didn’t get the downs. I split time my first two years, and my third year, I didn’t play. I went to the Saints had won my last two starts when I dislocated every toe on my left foot in a game against the Raiders.

    SS: Ouch.

    HS: Then I went to the Raiders a couple years later, and I thought Jon Gruden’s system was the right place for me. I thought my mobility and my athleticism would fit in well. In the west coast offense, it’s 1-2-3-4-5 throw, and it doesn’t allow for it. But if your toes don’t work, you can’t run, and there you have it.
  8. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    SS: If you do get elected, will you stay away from the team?

    HS: What do you mean?

    SS: Well, it’s kind of our theory that you’re a curse.

    HS: [Laughs] Well, there aren’t too many people I know left on the team. I remain close to [Redskins Head Trainer] Bubba Tyer of course, I really respect him about as much as any one in the world. Bobby Mitchell as well -- BJ at the front desk, is about as a quality human being as you will ever meet. As far as a curse, you know the team was 3-13 before I got there, so maybe, you know, it wasn’t me.

    Although, maybe if I go back, I’ll turn it around, and lift the curse.

    SS: You mean this could reverse the curse?

    HS: Yeah, I like that -- send me back to Washington and I’ll reverse the curse. [Laughs]

    SS: Okay, one last question. One of the things we want to do before the election is to ask the mainstream media to stop referring to you as a "former NFL quarterback." The theory being that they shouldn’t, since you weren’t successful at it. I mean, they don’t call Michael Jordan a "former professional baseball player." So, what you would rather be described as?

    * A Failed NFL QB
    * A Former college QB
    * A Real Estate Magnate
    * A Tool of San Francisco liberals (suggested by the Taylor campaign)

    HS: [Laughs] I like that last one. Hold on, read them again, maybe we can combine them.

    SS: A Failed NFL QB, A Former College QB, A Real Estate Magnate, or A Tool of San Francisco liberals.

    HS: How about a "Failed former college and NFL quarterback who also failed in the west coast offense." That way we get the California thing in there, too. [Laughs]

    SS: Okay, I’ll put that down. Thanks for your time, and being a good sport about this.

    HS: No problem, and keep doing what you’re doing -- I really do enjoy it.
  9. JayFarrar

    JayFarrar Well-Known Member

    Link worked for me.
    The NYTimes had a big writeup about this race in Monday's paper. About how Shuler is more conservative, more right wing, but running as a Democrat.
    I've met and interviewed Shuler on a number of occasions, and he's no dummy. He's made way too much money in real estate to be a complete dumbass. He many not have been especially football smart, but he's a pretty bright guy.
    He also has a cannon for an arm.
  10. I would now vote for Heath Shuler.
    That's some self-aware stuff.
  11. BYH

    BYH Active Member

    That was pretty goddamn funny.

    My friends and I were trying to come up with anti-Shuler ads for his opponent the other day.

    HEATH SHULER: He threw seven times as many interceptions as touchdowns in his last season in the NFL. Do you really want such scattershot aim in Congress? Vote Charles Taylor.

    HEATH SHULER: If he didn't stink so bad for the Saints in 1997, then maybe the Saints would have been better in 1998 and wouldn't have drafted drug abuser Ricky Williams. Vote Charles Taylor.

    HEATH SHULER: Crush his toes all over again Nov. 7. Vote Charles Taylor.
  12. westcoastvol

    westcoastvol Active Member

    Taylor, the incumbent, is under a lot of scrutiny. E-z pickins for Heath, quite frankly.

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