Heat @ Cavs (12-2)

Piotr Rasputin · Dec 3, 2010

BTExpress said:

All the other stuff is just trying to justify immature behavior.
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Which is how I'm reading your posts about LeBron.

Mizzougrad96 · Dec 3, 2010

Liked Whitlock's take...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-miami-heat-bully-in-return-120210

floridanewbie31 · Dec 3, 2010

Whitlock's way off.......

James didn't bully the Cavs....a bully, by definition, is someone who couldn't do the same thing on an equal.

I've seen James do the same thing he did last night to nearly every team in the league. What he did doesn't make him a bully.....it makes him a great player

holy bull · Dec 3, 2010

floridanewbie31 said:

Whitlock's way off.......

James didn't bully the Cavs....a bully, by definition, is someone who couldn't do the same thing on an equal.

I've seen James do the same thing he did last night to nearly every team in the league. What he did doesn't make him a bully.....it makes him a great player
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I have to disagree, florida. The definition of a bully isn't someone who couldn't to the same on an equal, it's someone who chooses not to attempt it on an equal, and because of utter insecurity takes everything out on the obvious inferior, to gain some false sense of superiority. I believe LeBron James has enough talent to take on any team in the league, but he hasn't really shown a desire to do that. I think Whitlock did a pretty good job of exposing that.

imjustagirl · Dec 3, 2010

Michael_ Gee said:

No, the team didn't screw him, IJAG. But he walked away from Cleveland because he thought the Heat would be great, and the Cavs couldn't be. That's not a very nice motive, considering how his own failures were so responsbile for their playoff loss last year. For all the bravado of the Decision and like that, this move was the move of an insecure man, who wanted to have other superstars available to fall back on if (and more likely when) he failed again.
As I said before -- the guy's weak. Great talent, but he's his own worst enemy as far as winning a title goes. I don't have much affection for Kobe, but Bryant's got the mental strength you need to be a true NBA superstar.
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Agreed.

Small Town Guy said:

I don't think you can underestimate the impact of last season's disastrous end in the fans' reaction. There still hasn't been an explanation for Game 5 of the Celtics series. Forget his numbers that game, which were certainly bad. It was his apparent disinterest in the game that puzzled everyone and I think just added to the furor when he eventually left. They thought he quit on them even before the season actually ended. If he returned, would most of their fans have forgotten about it or rationalized the end of the series? Sure. That's what fans do. But he did leave and after playing probably the two most disappointing games of his career. I definitely think that's played into some of the anger, or at least Scott Raab's.
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Agreed.

Junkie said:

BTExpress said:

LeBron has known since the day he signed a 3-year deal (which completely fucked the team in many ways) that he was leaving.
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And the citizens of Cleveland should have known the same. "Summer of 2010" stories were written years before. What were you expecting, a NOAA report similar to the one for New Orleans the day before Katrina? "CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE TO CITY'S PSYCHE EXPECTED. TEAM WILL BE UNWATCHABLE FOR MONTHS, MAYBE YEARS . . . "

Anybody who was strung along did it to themselves.
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I think a lot of people deep down knew he was leaving. Sports fans, especially downtrodden ones, exist on hope. That fact is, LeBron DID know and let everyone dangle in the wind. His execution of it all -- coupled with the fact he basically threw a playoff series -- is what makes him vilified, not that he left.
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Doubly agreed.

heyabbott said:

imjustagirl said:

Michael_ Gee said:

James didn't have the guts to say his real reason (or, to put it more positively, didn't want to hurt the feelings of people he liked). He left because of the Cavaliers, not because of the city of Cleveland. He wanted to be on a team with Wade and Bosh, not Boobie Gibson and company. The Cavs should take this personally, not Cavs fans.
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And yet, LeBron had quite a lot of say in personnel matters in Cleveland. So it's not like the team screwed him.
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In the long run they screwed him by listening to him and not hiring a top shelf GM and coach. LeBron is a emotionally and intellectually dim as he is athletic and talented on the basketball court.
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Quadruply agreed.

Ilmago · Dec 5, 2010

I don't know if they did anything to the microphones during this game, but the chants were much louder in Toronto when Vince Carter came back.

NoOneLikesUs · Dec 5, 2010

Ilmago said:

I don't know if they did anything to the microphones during this game, but the chants were much louder in Toronto when Vince Carter came back.

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TNT definitely filtered the shit out of it.

Canadian broadcasts aren't as bothered by audience participation as American ones are.

TheSportsPredictor · Dec 15, 2010

Why not thread for the rematch?

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