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Has it really been 12 years since the OKC bombing?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. sportschick

    sportschick Active Member

    KY, seriously, stop feeding the troll.
  2. KYSportsWriter

    KYSportsWriter Well-Known Member

  3. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Sportschick -- now that you are here and on duty, please deal with that sexist pig.
  4. audreyld

    audreyld Guest

    Last month I took a friend home with me who had never been to Oklahoma before. The one place we HAD to go was the memorial. It's absolutely beautiful at night. I used to go there in college just to reflect.

    The museum is outstanding, I can't go through it without crying my eyes out.
  5. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    It must be hard to take pictures with your eyes out
  6. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Yeah, we visited the memorial during the day, but returned at night just to see what it looked like. Both trips were worth it.

    Two other areas that I found difficult to walk through:

    1. The stuff collected from the rubble. Seeing a little teddy bear, or a watch or a set of keys ... it all made me realize that it could have easily been me or my kid in that bombing.

    2. Knowing that my home state - Kansas - was connected very closely with the bombing made me feel sick to my stomach.
  7. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member


    by Dan Bern
    co-written by Chris Chandler
    (c) 1996

    On the 19th day of April
    In 1995
    There was the worst car bombing
    Near 200 people died

    In Oklahoma City
    On Wednesday nine o'clock
    They struck the federal building
    Took out near half the block

    They thought it was an earthquake
    Made trees and lightpoles bend
    And folks thought they were seeing
    The world about to end

    It blew the building open
    It lay there like a wound
    Twisted pipes and wires
    Silent like a tomb

    Yeah, they blew the building open
    And blew folks lives apart
    Firefighters mumbling
    And wondering where to start

    They rushed out some survivors
    But soon could only cry
    And place the dead in caskets
    And ask the dear lord why

    Prayer for the missing
    For daughters and for sons
    Prayers for the souls of those
    Who'd never heard a one

    Kevin Small was lucky
    His clock needed repair
    He overslept an hour
    His three-year old son was spared

    But for too many others
    The news was not so bright
    One baby got her picture in the paper
    Then she died

    The President, he promised
    They'd pay dearly for the blast
    and all across the country
    Flags were flying at half mast

    Shock soon turned to anger
    "Who would do this?" people said
    And everyone suspicious
    Had a price upon their head

    They thought it was some Arabs
    And folks began ton scream
    "First tighten up the borders
    Then hang 'em from a tree

    This proves what we've been saying
    'Bout our fair and gentle land
    Nobody who did this
    Could be an American"

    The FBI got busy
    Some drawings and some names
    And everyone was looking
    For someone else to blame

    Some 50 hours later
    Early Friday day
    They found the man they wanted
    In jail ten miles away

    A so-called right extremist
    A patriot government foe
    An expert on explosions
    And white as drive snow

    When people heard the news they found it
    Hard to understand
    How could such a murderer
    Come from our own land

    But when we build walls and borders
    From fear and hate and guns
    The hatred turns around and
    Strikes at everyone

    Maybe now we'll understand
    Maybe now we'll see
    Superpatriots are seldom
    Friends of you and me

    They're scared and weak and cowards
    And they think that with their guns
    The ones they're most afraid of
    Will turn around and run

    But when we stand strong together
    And let love enjoy its will
    Misfortune can't defeat us
    It makes us stronger still

    Like on the 19th day of April
    In 1995
    A day all Oklahomans will
    Remember all their lives
  8. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    The caption under your picture is not only homophobic it is mean-spirited and bigotted towards Italian people.
  9. EStreetJoe

    EStreetJoe Well-Known Member


    True Revolutionaries
    by Dan Bern
    (c) 1998

    Look, Ma,
    They're gonna fry Tim McVeigh
    She said that nice guy
    Who was on the cover of all of those magazines?
    Why would they want to do a thing like that?
    I said well, he killed all those people in Oklahoma City
    She said nonsense, people don't kill people
    Car bombs kill people
    And I said well, yeah, Ma
    But they gotta do something with him
    She said why don't they get Mike Tyson
    To bite off both his ears?

    And I say true revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    True revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    It attracts too much attention
    They never bomb buildings

    A little girl down my block
    Was born with silicone in her breasts
    Turned out her grandmother and her mother
    Had both had the implants done
    And evolution took care of it this time around
    And I wondered what it is about
    So many women with big breasts
    Make them look so sad
    And I thought, well, maybe it has to do with the weight,
    The burden they're asked to carry in the world
    To feed it, to be the object of its desires
    And I wondered what burdens the rest of us are carrying all the time
    And I couldn't help thinking

    True revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    True revolutionareis
    Never bomb buildings
    It attracts too much attention
    They never bomb buildings

    And I decided to go out for a walk
    And do nothing except
    Look everybody I see in the eyes
    And not be the first to avert my eyes
    No matter what
    And I was planning to be gone for ten minutes
    But things started happening
    And I didn't return for two years
    By which time I was the heavyweight champion of the world
    And the expectant father of sixteen children
    By thirteen different women

    I was in a fishing village in coastal Spain
    It was Our Lady of Abortion Sunday afternoon
    All the pregnant ladies in their first trimester
    Filed before the priest to receive the blessing of
    "Try again sometime, try again"
    The old barber had dyed his hair green for the occasion
    And pierced his nipples
    And was riding his skateboard to the statue of Conan O'Brien
    Where he was doing backflips for the little kids
    Who threw coins given to them by their parents

    A visiting lecturer
    Achingly handsome
    Had just finished giving a
    "How to build bombs in your basement" seminar in the park
    All the young girls put their notebooks away dreamily
    And put dandelions in their hair

    The chimpanzee who had managed to type out Hamlet three years before
    Was sitting in the third floor office of the driver's license building
    Typing out zoning ordinances
    Typing out learner's permits
    Bored and lonely

    Pee Wee Herman was sitting in the central square in the grass
    Naked and masturbating
    While all the townspeople moved to him slowly
    And kissed him softly
    And sung lullabies in the grass

    And in Berkeley
    And in Greenwich Village
    And in Paris
    And in Scottsbluff, Nebraska
    No one sits around funky little coffee shops anymore
    Talking revolution
    They get a Starbucks to go
    They go back to their basketball games
    Where they see who can jump higher
    Who can jam
    Who can take it to the rack
    And they all wear baseball caps
    'Cept they don't say Yankees or Dodgers or Cardinals anymore
    They say Nike; Reebok; Adidas
    Because the pro players don't play for teams anymore
    They play for shoe companies
    And the kids aren't fooled
    They're just biding their time
    Waiting for the millennium
    When all the computers will crash
    Because the best scientists in the world
    Forgot to make them read zero

    True revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    True revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    It attracts too much attention
    They never bomb buildings

    And I was sitting there with a headful of dark thoughts
    Like I sometimes get
    And suddenly everything cleared
    And I realized that the only purpose to revolution
    Is to be able to love who you want
    How you want
    When you want
    Where you want
    So I took off all my clothes
    Stole a boat
    Rowed out to the middle of a lake
    And I jumped in
    And I looked back at you and said
    Come on! Get wet!

    True revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    True revolutionaries
    Never bomb buildings
    It attracts too much attention
    They never bomb buildings
    They never bomb buildings
    They never bomb buildings
  10. audreyld

    audreyld Guest

    There's one particular exhibit in the museum from the rubble that gets me. It's a little kid's shoe, and I swear I can feel my heart breaking when I come face to face with it.
  11. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    Does your heart require surgery when it breaks, or do you take nitro pills?
  12. kingcreole

    kingcreole Active Member

    Ever been to the OKC Memorial?
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