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Grammar question about Jimi Hendrix

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by bigpern23, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. beardpuller

    beardpuller Active Member

    Very clever. But I say a z is also a sibilant.
     
  2. Diabeetus

    Diabeetus Active Member

    From the AP Stylebook (2007) on possessives:

    Nothing about triple sibilants or anything like that. So I would say Hendrix's guitar or the Red Sox's success. Doesn't seem too difficult.

    EDIT: Unless your specific paper's styleguide says otherwise, that is.
     
  3. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Whatever you call it, it ain't an "s" sound.
     
  4. beardpuller

    beardpuller Active Member

    Well, this is way past the depth I wanted to wade into, I really wanted somebody to come up with a better explanation of the "Wind Cries Mary" lyric, but if you google triple sibilant and grammar, you'll see that other stylebooks do make the distinction, and Strunk and White address it without calling it a triple sibilant:

    "Exceptions are the possessives of ancient proper names in -es and -is, the possessive Jesus', and such forms as for conscience' sake, for righteousness' sake. But such forms as Achilles' heel, Moses' laws, Isis' temple are commonly replaced by

    the heel of Achilles

    the laws of Moses

    the temple of Isis"


    Again, if you put another s on conscience' sake or righteousness' sake, you'd have a triple sibilant. But like most of this stuff, it doesn't really matter all that much, and I have to go vacuum the TV room now.
     
  5. beardpuller

    beardpuller Active Member

    And for Simon:


    Main Entry: sibilant
    Function: noun
    Date: 1788
    : a sibilant speech sound (as English \s\, \z\, \sh\, \zh\, \ch(=tsh)\, or \j(=dzh)\)

    (The careful reader might note that I got into all this shit by saying Red Sox's would be a triple sibilant. On that count, I apparently am full of it ... no mention of X being a sibilant, anywhere. So let's just forget the whole thing).
     
  6. Socks'
     
  7. HC

    HC Well-Known Member

    This thread is yet another example of why I'm a tourist on this board. :D
     
  8. Matt1735

    Matt1735 Well-Known Member

    I don't think Jimi cares one way or the other ;D
     
  9. CentralIllinoisan

    CentralIllinoisan Active Member

    I read Red Sox's as "Red Sox-ez" not Red Sox-ez-ez"

    I'm with Simon. Red Sox gets an apostrophe S, Hendrix does, too.
     
  10. THat post really should have been End. Of. Thread.
     
  11. Simon_Cowbell

    Simon_Cowbell Active Member

    Gotta admit, I'm intrigued by a journalist who thinks that saying "Moses" involves two "s" sounds.
     
  12. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    From my college linguistics class ... The "s" sound and the "z" sound are related. The "s" is unvoiced and the "z" is voiced. That's the only difference. You form your mouth the same way to make both sounds.
     
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